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King of Low Prio

    ^smurfs tend to get overvalued so you might end up with a higher MM to start with it will balance out after playing more games

    Everyone loves Chibi

      I was expecting you Sampson to say something about it :) I'm pretty convinced i'll go up, since i'm skill-wise ready for 4k players so yes - it will balance out, i'm sure of that.

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      King of Low Prio

        if you think you are a 4k MM player and you go to 4k MM doesnt that mean you should think that MM is working?

        Everyone loves Chibi

          I never said it's not working (proove me wrong if i did), i just havent played enough ranked games on my main profile to actually test it out yet (only 12 solo ranked so far). But i just proved i'm a lot closer then it looked before (played most calibrating games with over 4k people and done well). Pure skill alone for this mmr range is not problem (i'm sure i have it), but you usually got to be a lot better to climb over those games up - especially that rank of players that know motorics of the game, but dont really know how to win it.

          It will be really interesting to see tho, if that 5.6k guy can do it :) I'll do my best to achieve it too.

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          King of Low Prio

            you realize both your accounts take from almost the same player pool right?

            Bedge

              -500 solo
              -700 party
              in 2 weeks
              ty gabbe
              ty volvo
              ty guys who steal my items from couriers
              ty intentional feeders
              ty leavers
              ty gais

              Everyone loves Chibi

                "you realize both your accounts take from almost the same player pool right?". Nope, they obviously not. It's noticable difference in people skill, at least there was in calibrating matches. While i've been playing vs 3.3-3.6k people on my main, i've played mostly with 4k+ people here on this one. I'll see what the future brings, so i cant say a lot more for now.

                King of Low Prio

                  what you 'feel' and what actually happens are 2 different things. MM range commonly takes players 500-1000 difference in MM.

                  Everyone loves Chibi

                    I dont need to "feel" or guess anything like you do, if i just plain out ask people for mmr and they tell me. So i know for the fact what players was i matched against and with on both profiles.

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                    King of Low Prio

                      yes because obviously everyone on the internet tells the truth......

                      Everyone loves Chibi

                        Not everyone need to lie about their mmr or hide it like you do :)

                        [Lk].Zano

                          To be fair...it IS expected from a fairly good chunk of the Internet people to not tell the truth...and even if they do, it's probably a half-truth...specially from gamers.

                          King of Low Prio

                            Everyone on my friends list can see my MM, not much I can do to show it past that due to valve. You know they lie but you will believe them if they tell you something you want to hear

                            Monkeh

                              Broke through 3200 last night. Up from 3024 initially. 4K here I come.

                              Yeah, I don't believe it either.

                              Everyone loves Chibi

                                "You know they lie but you will believe them if they tell you something you want to hear" lol, such skeptic. I actually added a few of those (or they added me) and they basically all told the truth. But whatever, believe what you want if it makes you feel better :)

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                                  Hassan

                                    ^ that's why you should only play AP. :D

                                    Fpz

                                      ^ look, I am playing all pick

                                      this guys was 5 man stack

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                                      Randy

                                        finally hit 3700 solo after about a month of idling around 3500

                                        PICK MORE SH!T PLZ

                                          cannot progress more then 3780 ... after steak of few wins in row, teammates start to act like total retards something like:
                                          http://images.bluegartr.com/bucket/gallery/fe440bfe34bb5f30563bc27762cfbc16.png

                                          Vonologic

                                            If you gain an everage of 20 MMR per win, It would take me a 100 win streak to get from 3800 to 5800...?

                                            Isn't that kind of absurd?

                                            Сука Spirit

                                              No. Tell me how you can improve from trench tier to diamond in 100 matches.

                                              ﷼abbar

                                                I always get queued with 2-4 stack russians where generally I do good and my team feeds.

                                                BoJack

                                                  ^
                                                  U DONT EVEN PLAY RANKED DUDE WTF

                                                  [Lk].Zano

                                                    Ah, I finally finished those damn calibration matches...yeah, took me long enough. 3900 is my starting point and if my last few matches were of any indication of what awaits me, I better pick more mids and offlaners.

                                                    Sirlancelot•4

                                                      my solo rating is 4425 seems like a can`t pass 4550 border but i can`t drop lower then 4375...seems pretty fair all my games we lost as a team no as individual players and when we win we all win...got some very intersting gaMES only play ap brood mama and es seems to be the new meta usualy we lose cause we pick bad
                                                      my party rating is like 4200 but i lost much here cause i play with less skilled players witch are my friends :)

                                                      Bone Chilling

                                                        @[Lk].Zano Grats on that! I first got my party mmr at around 4400 and then my solo mmr was at 3900 after calibration matches. But since then it was a pretty easy road to 4500 solo, and 4800 party ratings. Though I do believe that partly this is because I've started actively communicating with my team, chosing only russian server and language options. Not sure when I'll reach my mmr border but so far I lost games mostly because of:
                                                        1) Getting outpicked (some people tend to random even if they're the last to pick) Probably I should start playing CM
                                                        2) Game Ruiners (Situations when ppl refuse to cooperate at all for some reason, intentional feeding, item stealing) This happens rarely, but if it does it's very bad and almost nothing can be done bout it.

                                                        Also about Russians being immature and ignorant - that is true, but the higher my MMR gets the more adecvate ppl I meet. Yesterday my team and I waited 8 minutes for a dude to reconnect at the start of the game without saying a single word but "Let him unpause himself as soon as he reconnects". Everyone agreed, and no1 was stacking at that.

                                                        Other example, we lost a game (my belvoed LC was picked, and I went for silencer to support the game) mostly because our LC was very slow with lungling and rarely participated in team fights. In the end of the game I told him that he should improve, he said I wouldn't do it any better, challenged me to 1v1 (my 1st 1v1 lol) I won easily, afther what the dude left me speechless saying: "You're probably right about my LC jungling, I will take a look at your replays and will try to learn something of it. Thanks, bye"

                                                        Or hearing the enemy team (which we stomped real hard) praise their rubik who went 0-25-something for trying his best, and saying that our team just played well.

                                                        Never expected that from my keen, but the higher I get the more often these kind of situations occure.
                                                        Because of this I've been really enjoying dota lately, probably more than ever!

                                                        KirbMON

                                                          I started with 4067 Group ranked. Now i stuck at 4,8 :c

                                                          Sirlancelot

                                                            it is possible...7k is the new goal ;d

                                                            Terrierist

                                                              How they calculate this mmr?
                                                              I have 2 id one level 16 with 6 lose and 4 win then i got 3367 mmr My 2 nd id level 40 with 5 win and 5 lose then i got 3366 mmr confuse now

                                                              Brave Little Spark

                                                                My friend is saying that his 3800 will get him matched with better players on average than 3760, after a game where all the pugs had scores along the lines of 2-7 MoC NP or 3-12 lion / 3-12 vs.

                                                                Is this true? I was under the strong impression from everything I've read that it's ranges rather than tiers, and still basically really chancy on who you get as allies until you get into the 5ks, and even then only the high 5ks where all the pros are.

                                                                BoJack

                                                                  bumperino

                                                                  Sirlancelot•4

                                                                    after being stuck like a month (i haven`t played that many matches cos i had exams..) at 4425 (between 4350 and 4500) now i am at 4700 solo que and my winning streak seems to be geting stronger......but for my party skills i only party up with friends with high party mmr.... +5k (i did party with 3,4k - 3,8k friends but the oppents where too damn weak for crying out loud) i lost a bit and am now 4100 party mmr....but its ok when u party up with 2 friends who have +5k mmr the skill play and the tryhardness is so fuckin good...
                                                                    my next goal is to reach a 5k solo q mmr and 4,4k party mmr i will play only with more skilled friends no more low skill party mmr i had enough!!

                                                                    Etomaks

                                                                      1919 mmr 6/10 games and 6 of those i owned wtf?

                                                                      Szotyi3

                                                                        the walking dead

                                                                        Got muted, lost 125 mmr in a few hours. GGWP

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                                                                        ok

                                                                          taking forever to reach lvl13 fuck

                                                                          Dat 900mmr guy

                                                                            Well, Main Menu, there's always someone worse. I got mine yesterday - 820. That's probably a record low. :D