General Discussionnaga/ck/tb/etc vs OD?

Can't do much against Phantom Lancer if he has enough illusions around. Chances are he'll get lucky and he can make the illusions faster than OD can kill them. At least that's what usually happens to me when I play OD against PL.

CK is shit anyway

How do you call a rngod with bullshit illusion damage that can trap you inside illusions shit? ^

Ability to carry uptime like 20 seconds with massive downtime. RNG based no ability to farm needs manta to trap people scales mediocre easily kited countered by aoe shit without items outclassed by other carries in every way needs to snowball

If you want a carry with a stun pick Sven/wraith. Hell, pick VS

Heroes with powerful AOE attacks are better counters to illusions.

CK is not to be used as the main carry anyway. He works better as the asshole who melts your key hero in the teamfight so fast that the supports can't react and force him away from his illusions.

You can take down anyone in 1 second with ck. dont call some hero weak when you dont know how to play it.

around illusion herores, ck is more colldown dependent. Thats why no one pick him yet in competitive scene.

have you tried Medusa/OD?

EDIT: woops, missed OD in the topic title sorry
Well as OD you can do fairly good damage with your orb attack, 1v1, not sure how it plays out in team fights, probably just prison yourself until safe, then counter.

Depends also on the farm level of those heroes you've mentioned and how the game is going onverall
A force stuff or Euls can be quite handy too

With OD you get stuned, silenced or disarmed and then you die.

That's why the Eul suggestion, speaking about team fights, if you prison yourself and Eul you should have enough time for the enemy to focus someone else, once that is done you should have the time to lend those couple hits needed, and if shits get bad, you can still get a force staff or a hex if game goes better.

Still, I am not really sure it can work ofc, I did not play a great deal with OD, a Medusa might be a good option but she requires lots of farm to be useful

Leshrac would be better at taking out those illusions, at least early to mid game.

well, as PL it's a different story maybe

but as for people with horrid CDs for clones like CK, early-mid game my clones just get 1 shotted even with stats
speaking of which, i would like to see a CK buff...

OD mostly probably will be mid. Get a Skywrath mid and you'll be fine. Most frustrating shit ever: arcane bolt spam.

"Uh, you want to get in close for a last hit? Here's 200 magic damage. See you in 4s again"

lol u mean 2 seconds? :P

^ That's level 4 arcane bolt.

lol, I just realized that i did not get the post again, i tought you meant to play OD or some other hero to COUNTER illusions. :)
My bad.

Welll as for playing as PL i think the only way would be to outfarm the opponent asap, split push a separate lane and once you're fat, with a hearth etc. just shot everything in your path.

yeah true

anyhow, i was tryin to be a wannabe pro with naga

our mid/top kinda fed, albeit i had the easiest lane i suppose against a solo offlane centaur, me on safelane radiant side

so yeah tried to go radi/boots/bottle (mid didn't go bottle so i used some bottle crowing), 18 minutes wasn't too horrid imo
but OD just kept one shotting my clones after i got treads/yasha

so i sent them to go farm instead but it was still too late