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Low Expectations

    http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/2c51ka/my_thoughts_and_suggestions_on_todays_mmr_system/
    normally I dont advertise reddit but I actually found some valid points in this, whats your opinions?

    Metallicize

      So much to read, is there a movie version?

      King of Low Prio

        It is just a balance of wait time and match balancing. Everyone says 'I would wait hours if I could get a 100% balanced match' but the reality is there is only a select few who continue playing the game when the que times are longer than the actual match......

        Hafla Enjoyer

          I've read that and as a scrub I approve

          Wink

            i love it

            Metallicize

              wink hello didn't see you here, its not like i'm stalking you or anything.

              Low Expectations

                Well I really liked the new mode proposal (made alot of sense)

                Wink

                  hi :D

                  the realm's delight

                    tldr

                    Vaikiss`742.

                      yes

                      Jʌy Δshʙoʁnɘ

                        WOW wrong tthread. Sorry my bad.

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                        BenaoLifedancer

                          its trash just as everything you read on reddit concerning mmr

                          ICE SKULL

                            i dont like it because it makes no sense.

                            a majority of reddit including dotabuff doesn't even have 5k+, what do they know? and the difference between a 6k and 5.5k player is not who goes mid or whatever, there are supports such as sonneiko, zenigata, levi and many more who sit at 6k+ solo mmr who started at 4k-5k and all they do is play support literally.

                            they should have just done it similar to csgo, but yeah, a 6k player and a 5k player? the difference is huge, denying this wouldn¨'t surprise me if you sit at 3k-4k because these type of shitters believe in elo hell etc and actually want a chance because they assume it'll get them out of their bracket

                            l m a o

                            ICE SKULL

                              here is a good example of these type of players with tons of toxicity who'd support it

                              "Wink
                              2 hours ago
                              i love it"

                              of course a shitter who can't even get out of 4k bracket would say something like this because they directly assume if valve re-design the matchmaking, they'd have a higher rating. this is why they buy high mmr accounts and ultimately suck with it.

                              to me, a sub 5k player reminds me of a bot, someone below 4k is sadly not meant to play dota, they should go find another game because clearly you fail to do what dota is meant to be about.

                              it'd be nice if 5k-5.3k was "Supreme Gold 1", 5.3k-5.5k "Supreme Gold 2" etc.

                              charged up

                                how are you comparing this to csgo if u suck at csgo

                                its so funny how you always write someone below 4k shouldnt play dota

                                but you are not even equal to something like 4k in csgo and afaik you still play

                                Quick maffs

                                  SO you dont like it because sub 5k players like it.

                                  Oh wave i love you

                                  [Lk].Zano

                                    Ignoring everything stupid written so far. How would the idea of brackts work?

                                    It looks nice on paper, but how would the game determine when to put someone in X or Y bracket? It wouldn't be from number of wins or account level because that would be supremely retarded. Game impact? Again, you'd need something weird like hiring people to constantly watch the matches or something, because the stats alone are not reliable on every hero, specially heroes like Treant Protector (can have A LOT more impact than stats would say) or Zeus (can heavily inflate your stats in a match). It'd still need a hidden MMR number system, kind of how dota2 was before Ranked matchmaking was implemented...only then you could see your bracket. Besides, I'm sure some people would find a way to see this hidden number.

                                    Vaikiss`742.

                                      wave please

                                      levi goes random with disruptor mid and then dies 13 times in 20 minutes

                                      ICE SKULL

                                        :D i know but still, there are as many supports as "mid" players

                                        @emotional empire
                                        havent played, i stopped at gold 2 or something

                                        ICE SKULL

                                          ok dorkly, you sure seem to know a lot about fucking dota, mechanical skills, the differences between 6k and 5k, please do tell me it :)

                                          ICE SKULL

                                            im being flamed by a "normal skill" smurf :(((((( i am now defeated

                                            charged up

                                              if you meant me and it helps i reached very high on my main and am still shit and looking to improve
                                              didnt meant to flame, i just dont like how you put people down, when you are no where near skyrocketing to high mmr in other games and yet you say it's so easy for "dota".
                                              that's all

                                              i've been at nearly the highest skill tier in cs and therefor it makes me somewhat angry to see this from this perspective, all things take time
                                              you dont get born 5k

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                                              [Lk].Zano

                                                Wave now wants every player below 5k to not play dota and that way, lose every bit of income he could get by account boosting.

                                                Hmmm...

                                                mwsqz

                                                  to fix mmr 5+ shoud play only with 5+
                                                  not like i fuckin see 6ppl in my fl searching match at the same time and all of em get matched in a different game with 4k's

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                                                  Born

                                                    I used to wait for hours back at dlg to find a game.
                                                    Not everyone was prepared to do the same.

                                                    Hex Sigma

                                                      +1 to the bracket system

                                                      Metallicize

                                                        guys, i can boost your accounts to 5k in 3-7 days. there is really no big difference between 3k and 5k mmr. 5k mmr players just go mid every game. pm me if u ineresting

                                                        Flyingpigs

                                                          wave pls teach me ur dota skills. U ARE W-GOD

                                                          Edu

                                                            @Sunrise
                                                            to boost someone's acc till 5k , first, you need to reach in ur own acc.

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                                                            mwsqz

                                                              ^hes 6k i have him on my fl..

                                                              Metallicize

                                                                ^ what he said.

                                                                Fakovnik

                                                                  I can confirm that mm is 100% balanced