he is a rly gd player, i played once with him, http://dotabuff.com/matches/118057419 no death streak, though he had 200 ping as he is from us and we play on eu servers
Lol this must be the wierdest discussion i've seen. I agree with that drow is a fucking op son of a cocksucking shitfucker but still... This guy has about 140wins. But if you look at league of legends i belive 60% of the players are 7-12year olds who only picks op heroes all the time. Don't you think that this fellow *rape* is pretty decent? Atleast hes playing DotA and not LOL! (i hope)
What's wrong with judging a player for their win rate? Until we get an elo system publicly show by valve it's a good idea since almost all of the good players have 60%+ win rate, except maybe a few like singsing that plays with casters/sheever and trolls most of his games.
But Op's stats seem pretty shitty though.
Winrate means nothing when you play with 45% idiots with elitist egos who think they are best and have no idea how to farm/play/carry/support nothing just blame the team for their mistakes and they never do anything wrong! Or is that just me :< fuck I hate r/l friends sometimes.
if u got less than 200 games, u can get more than 55% winrate, but later on its going to be hard+1
the more you play, you are more likely to have a winrate close to 50%,(dont have to be exactly 50 ,but range from,48-52 ,say, are very likely rate) except you are very good/bad . also ppl used to play with their own team have higher rate.
anyway, lets forget about drow, if u want some1 really good, dont not judge the rate, especially for the supporters. since if a good supporter always plays soloqueues, like cm, vs, es, tide etc, it's hard to have a high rate!
Are you 10 years old? It's pretty basic logic to know that winrate doesn't mean anything... For example i could have 55% win rate in normal skill bracket and someone else 48% near top of very high skill bracket... You can bet that the second person is almost certainly more skilled....
win rate is static while skill level is not, in fact it takes exactly 50% to be very good and 51% is much better than 50% and 49% is much worse.
The reason this is true is because as you move higher in skill level you progressively meet better people which reduces your win rate, but if you still manage to progress you are still very good.
lets say you started at 60% in normal matchmaking, you move up to high matchmaking and win less games so you are now at 55%. You still keep wining more than you lose so now you are at 51% and in very high matchmaking.
At this point if you manage to keep 50% at all it would mean that you are roughly equally skilled to the best of the dota community has to offer whereas a 49% would mean that you cant compete equally and would move into lower skill brackets over time. Now a player with a consistent 50% win rate is significantly better than someone with an inconsistent 50% win rate because the fluctuation in wins can be picked up at the mid level of play and then be moved to the top after wins reach 50% again, at which it goes back down.
All of this assumes a HIGH NUMBER OF GAMES PLAYED. if the OP believes in stats as he cliams with this title then he should ensure that his proposition can be backed up with statistically relevant sample size. From what ive seen that number seems to be at least 400 games played as the stats are screwed over multiple skill levels.
Can't wait to see your winrate after 200 more games. The matchmaking system will match you with players better able to contain drow so your rate will drop, probably to something below 50%, because drow needs no skill to play. The whole point of the matchmaking system is to move a player to a 50% win rate, which you don't seem to realize or understand.
@CM@Trick|V2.0: Read up on maths and statistics at a level beyond counting to ten on your fingers. Also play a support hero and get a 50% win rate with that before commenting. Looking at you're hero choices, they're all high dps carries. Your win rate isn't indicative of your skill level. A 50% win rate in platinum is better than a 60% win rate in silver.
K9 is right thought. You are stacked with ur friend, MyTeamAreMonkeys. Given time and 300+ games I'm sure he'll be somwhere around 50%. Asking for more stacked people who normally keep u above again. Hence the OPs reason for posting.
[@Rape
I checked... all of it... wasnt hard... you played only 3]
You mean we should check this?
http://dotabuff.com/matches/114636618 At 45 mins you got, as jakiro, a boots of speed (hmm), a shadow blade (lal) and an orchid (what? why?)a belt and an axe (woot)... where is your: arcane boots, a pipe? or blink dagger/force staff
I played with him and he lives up to every little rep a drow picker has, his friend on the therhand that luna, Is fucking awful went kotl the 2nd game and didn't ward once.... holy shit i felt so abused playing in that match pool....
It has nothing to do with drow picker or what ever. It's to do with knownledge of the game and abusing their xertain heroes, going invis on every hero is fucking retarded, it's retarded to go it in the first place unless under huge pressure..
Invoker was feeding along with batrider, and dont be such a d***..
if u didnt like his gameplay, leave him, he isnt forcing u to play with him..
i played with him, and he was perfect, maybe its just not his day..
http://dotabuff.com/matches/118057419
he knows he is bad and honestly get off his dick faggot. I played with him regardless of his hate also one game? vs fucking scrubs honestly. LOL
just because you + your shit clan is in low bracket doesnt mean another noob can come along and win with ease and prove hes fucking god. He played bad, he has no knownledge o the game. I personally believe hes from LoL and doesnm't know how to abuse his hero so he does the same fucking robot strat every game and so does his fucking friend. Stick to your low teir games my friend and you'll be thinking he is pro and so are you.
That fucking dunning kruger effect in peoples heads serously
Also everyone was fucking feeding apart from me at one point all crying and shit. fucking low tier bracket holy shit. if you watched the replay you'll see in game 1, he played a carry and didn't proform and in game 2 he didn't proform
only person who actually did proform was me and i was a stupid tide hunter because they needed "TANKS" in their strat.
I dislike people who pick carries only to average 350 gpm in a 50 min game with a broken hero.
ok man, i am sry, u r best in dota, we all r noobs, dont be mad..
and about me being in low tier MMR?
wtf r u talking about?
r u the one who got 1983 DBR?
and i play with my friends because they r my "friends", not like u, lone retard, he might be not best, but he is fine, u dont expect everyone to be the best in the world, and he mentioned the requirements to be above 55% because he had one, so thought guys at his skill lvl had such WR..
and about me and his dick, that is wut friends do, he did not force anyone to enter the thread -.-'
and i honestly see u every where disagreeing with every one, coming back to my clan thingy, its not a clan, its just a tag so that my friends thinks that they r improving, as they r full retards..
lol this troll thread is still going?
@ED^Mapzor:
You picked one game out of the bunch he played where he did play well without looking at the whole picture. I can do it too; look at me, I'm a badass, wooooooo:
http://dotabuff.com/matches/109422371
I just took another random game from him as an example with <300 GPM:
http://dotabuff.com/matches/118633846 Even CM almost had a higher GPM than him.
As other people said, he has a high win rate for now, but as he will play more games it will go down to 50% eventually, because he will be matched with players who can easily counter drow, and are a higher skill level than him.
his average GPM with luna is 508, his average XPM with luna is almost 600
idc about those 3 or 4 games he lost with luna, u dont expect someone to have an impressive GPM when he and his team is feeding..
u can search for anyone, and u will find some bad games for him, ANYONE !!
even those guys with 70% winrates..
i am not saying he is a gd, or pro, or bad player, but just stop ur shit
not gonna add anything more
he just has a LOL player mentality: he mains 1 or 2 heroes and plays ONLY them. If the team he plays with already has carries and needs supports, he'll just suck with them, because he never played them.
The fact that he thinks winrate matters solidifies this theory, because it's similar to ELO.
@ Roamer:
Fakken feeder n00blord trash <50% winrate, go back to LOL huehuehue (OP's mind)
he is a rly gd player, i played once with him, http://dotabuff.com/matches/118057419
no death streak, though he had 200 ping as he is from us and we play on eu servers
I CAN HAZ DROW RANGER?
@Roamer
I think you just won.
SARMBARDY GET WARDZZZZ
GOD DEM SHADOW BLADE
Lol this must be the wierdest discussion i've seen. I agree with that drow is a fucking op son of a cocksucking shitfucker but still... This guy has about 140wins. But if you look at league of legends i belive 60% of the players are 7-12year olds who only picks op heroes all the time. Don't you think that this fellow *rape* is pretty decent? Atleast hes playing DotA and not LOL! (i hope)
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What's wrong with judging a player for their win rate? Until we get an elo system publicly show by valve it's a good idea since almost all of the good players have 60%+ win rate, except maybe a few like singsing that plays with casters/sheever and trolls most of his games.
But Op's stats seem pretty shitty though.
Winrate means nothing when you play with 45% idiots with elitist egos who think they are best and have no idea how to farm/play/carry/support nothing just blame the team for their mistakes and they never do anything wrong! Or is that just me :< fuck I hate r/l friends sometimes.
if u got less than 200 games, u can get more than 55% winrate, but later on its going to be hard+1
the more you play, you are more likely to have a winrate close to 50%,(dont have to be exactly 50 ,but range from,48-52 ,say, are very likely rate) except you are very good/bad . also ppl used to play with their own team have higher rate.
anyway, lets forget about drow, if u want some1 really good, dont not judge the rate, especially for the supporters. since if a good supporter always plays soloqueues, like cm, vs, es, tide etc, it's hard to have a high rate!
Add me, The Terrible. I used to have near 55% winrate before recent loose streak (~_~) I play good supports/gankers.
Are you 10 years old? It's pretty basic logic to know that winrate doesn't mean anything... For example i could have 55% win rate in normal skill bracket and someone else 48% near top of very high skill bracket... You can bet that the second person is almost certainly more skilled....
Pls pick me. I am top 5 players eu!
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i never met a guy who have less than 50% winrate who is in very high MMR, maybe only if u got 1500+ games
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Dendi wanted to join, but he doesnt have the win rate, he sucks.
win rate is static while skill level is not, in fact it takes exactly 50% to be very good and 51% is much better than 50% and 49% is much worse.
The reason this is true is because as you move higher in skill level you progressively meet better people which reduces your win rate, but if you still manage to progress you are still very good.
lets say you started at 60% in normal matchmaking, you move up to high matchmaking and win less games so you are now at 55%. You still keep wining more than you lose so now you are at 51% and in very high matchmaking.
At this point if you manage to keep 50% at all it would mean that you are roughly equally skilled to the best of the dota community has to offer whereas a 49% would mean that you cant compete equally and would move into lower skill brackets over time. Now a player with a consistent 50% win rate is significantly better than someone with an inconsistent 50% win rate because the fluctuation in wins can be picked up at the mid level of play and then be moved to the top after wins reach 50% again, at which it goes back down.
All of this assumes a HIGH NUMBER OF GAMES PLAYED. if the OP believes in stats as he cliams with this title then he should ensure that his proposition can be backed up with statistically relevant sample size. From what ive seen that number seems to be at least 400 games played as the stats are screwed over multiple skill levels.
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Can't wait to see your winrate after 200 more games. The matchmaking system will match you with players better able to contain drow so your rate will drop, probably to something below 50%, because drow needs no skill to play. The whole point of the matchmaking system is to move a player to a 50% win rate, which you don't seem to realize or understand.
To be honest @above poster (K9) I think that is a load of Bullshit. but we'll see when I hit 200 games :D
@CM@Trick|V2.0: Read up on maths and statistics at a level beyond counting to ten on your fingers. Also play a support hero and get a 50% win rate with that before commenting. Looking at you're hero choices, they're all high dps carries. Your win rate isn't indicative of your skill level. A 50% win rate in platinum is better than a 60% win rate in silver.
I think it's just an excuse for bad-mediocre players to blame the team and the system "IT WANTS ME 50% SO I MUST BE AROUND 48-52%"
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k9 is a bronze player
6/10 almost fell for it
K9 is right thought. You are stacked with ur friend, MyTeamAreMonkeys. Given time and 300+ games I'm sure he'll be somwhere around 50%. Asking for more stacked people who normally keep u above again. Hence the OPs reason for posting.
[HtG]ReasoN
You are not even in bronze league, you are in wood league
lol op, still being stubborn? why not u play a support after this. if you do good then everybody shuts up
oh and mind my es, im very bad with him since dota 1, just trying to improve :)
check my jakiro wins
I'll play with you on USA-WEST/South East Asia or Kangarooland. Depends on you i get 200 ping to WEST/SEA
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[@Rape
I checked... all of it... wasnt hard... you played only 3]
You mean we should check this?
http://dotabuff.com/matches/114636618
At 45 mins you got, as jakiro, a boots of speed (hmm), a shadow blade (lal) and an orchid (what? why?)a belt and an axe (woot)... where is your: arcane boots, a pipe? or blink dagger/force staff
Or you mean this?
http://dotabuff.com/matches/114600397
You got a Sange&Yasha? and a halberd... nice!
http://dotabuff.com/matches/114587258
Your third match ended before time... you died twice and got an assist... at least you got an arcane boots :)
So what we should check on these? I think others wanna say... you should be a lil more humble.
thats all
I played with him and he lives up to every little rep a drow picker has, his friend on the therhand that luna, Is fucking awful went kotl the 2nd game and didn't ward once.... holy shit i felt so abused playing in that match pool....
just don't feed the troll. He's either trolling or retarded. Probably both.
I guess that he is going to pick Drow in every scrim since he want team. That will be interesting.
http://dotabuff.com/matches/122721798
His friend the kotl no wards I was only one not feeding till the literally raxed us...
http://dotabuff.com/matches/122676804
here they both are in a pubstomp barely carrying if that...
It has nothing to do with drow picker or what ever. It's to do with knownledge of the game and abusing their xertain heroes, going invis on every hero is fucking retarded, it's retarded to go it in the first place unless under huge pressure..
Invoker was feeding along with batrider, and dont be such a d***..
if u didnt like his gameplay, leave him, he isnt forcing u to play with him..
i played with him, and he was perfect, maybe its just not his day..
http://dotabuff.com/matches/118057419
he knows he is bad and honestly get off his dick faggot. I played with him regardless of his hate also one game? vs fucking scrubs honestly. LOL
just because you + your shit clan is in low bracket doesnt mean another noob can come along and win with ease and prove hes fucking god. He played bad, he has no knownledge o the game. I personally believe hes from LoL and doesnm't know how to abuse his hero so he does the same fucking robot strat every game and so does his fucking friend. Stick to your low teir games my friend and you'll be thinking he is pro and so are you.
That fucking dunning kruger effect in peoples heads serously
Also everyone was fucking feeding apart from me at one point all crying and shit. fucking low tier bracket holy shit. if you watched the replay you'll see in game 1, he played a carry and didn't proform and in game 2 he didn't proform
only person who actually did proform was me and i was a stupid tide hunter because they needed "TANKS" in their strat.
I dislike people who pick carries only to average 350 gpm in a 50 min game with a broken hero.
ok man, i am sry, u r best in dota, we all r noobs, dont be mad..
and about me being in low tier MMR?
wtf r u talking about?
r u the one who got 1983 DBR?
and i play with my friends because they r my "friends", not like u, lone retard, he might be not best, but he is fine, u dont expect everyone to be the best in the world, and he mentioned the requirements to be above 55% because he had one, so thought guys at his skill lvl had such WR..
and about me and his dick, that is wut friends do, he did not force anyone to enter the thread -.-'
and i honestly see u every where disagreeing with every one, coming back to my clan thingy, its not a clan, its just a tag so that my friends thinks that they r improving, as they r full retards..
lol this troll thread is still going?
@ED^Mapzor:
You picked one game out of the bunch he played where he did play well without looking at the whole picture. I can do it too; look at me, I'm a badass, wooooooo:
http://dotabuff.com/matches/109422371
I just took another random game from him as an example with <300 GPM:
http://dotabuff.com/matches/118633846
Even CM almost had a higher GPM than him.
Want more:
http://dotabuff.com/matches/120305576
200 GPM Luna rofl
As other people said, he has a high win rate for now, but as he will play more games it will go down to 50% eventually, because he will be matched with players who can easily counter drow, and are a higher skill level than him.
When I really started playing the game, I also started with a high win rate:
http://i.imgur.com/6nQOsFW.png
Eventually it went down, because I started being matched with people with a higher lvl than me, and it went down to 50%. I win a few, then lose a few.
his average GPM with luna is 508, his average XPM with luna is almost 600
idc about those 3 or 4 games he lost with luna, u dont expect someone to have an impressive GPM when he and his team is feeding..
u can search for anyone, and u will find some bad games for him, ANYONE !!
even those guys with 70% winrates..
i am not saying he is a gd, or pro, or bad player, but just stop ur shit
not gonna add anything more
he just has a LOL player mentality: he mains 1 or 2 heroes and plays ONLY them. If the team he plays with already has carries and needs supports, he'll just suck with them, because he never played them.
The fact that he thinks winrate matters solidifies this theory, because it's similar to ELO.
@cM^Trick|V2.0:
+1 ditto
op is noob. case closed.