Heroes tab -> change metric to "Most Game Impact" = voila.
Meanwhile, I would suggest that an assist is only worth 1/2 the value of a K or a D. Anyone agree?
You kidding me? I am not talking about heroes' average KDA, i am talking about a player's average stats. It is not that hard to understand.
Besides, according to what you say, there is no need to any statistics in dotabuff if it is introduced in dotaholic.
Additionally, the KDA listed for heroes is way off. The formula is K+A-D instead of (K+A)/D.
Yes, also waiting for KDA badly. All general KDA, and KDA for specific hero. If it's done, it will be perfect for you!
We need a Kill-Death ratio (KDR) first IF Valve ever decides to implement it.
Assists could count when a hero is within the area but killing and dying holds a bigger impact. Certain heroes are obligated to die more than others so I would understand why it would not be a good idea to have this. In order to have this added, Valve is most likely going to have ratios for each individual heroes for each individual player then onto accounts. Keep in mind we're still in beta.
kills/death/assists, the average number per game, as example (10.82/3.01/9.79)
Total creeps and how many per game: Total 10000, average per game (creeps 200/denay 20/neutrals 70).
How many towers player kill.
How many couriers=)
And of course average statisics kills/death = number. As example 100/25=4, k/s = 4.
And if you could negotiate with developers DotA 2, you could make a function as "-ping" in Dota2. If player want to see statistics, he must write in game chat -statsdota "nickname"(or other command). You can also negotiate with developers to near nicknames in the game at once shows statistics from your site. I think its possible=)
Sorry for my bad English.
I really hope the K/D/A average of all hero can add in the Players - Top 50 rate.
I really hope this is never added... It'll make people play like idiots, like they do in HoN... This isn't CoD, your KDR doesn't mean a thing. Winning or not is all that matters.
I'd take a KoTL that goes 0/12/10, and wins the game because he is actually participating in teamfights, over your average pub player, that goes 8/2/0 with over 200 cs because he can only spam illuminate and chakra on himself all game and run like hell from every single engagement, any day.
Battou@
You have no experience in this. I've been playing dota, where there was shows the average k/d. This way you can find the feeders. If player have k/d less than 1 - he noob, if ~2 - good player. If 3 - I want to play with him(ofc without abuse statistics). Support ≠ feeder. Sorry for my bad English.
You have no idea what you're talking about... Every single pro player that plays on 4-5 has a negative KDR, and I assure you, you're not better then any of them.
And yes, I have quite a lot of experience in this, KDR means shit, just makes people like you play like retards.
Battou is right here. People will be stat hunting like idiots, which means people well let a hero like shadow shaman tank while the rest will go for a kill and then run away. This way the losing team can have a player with a 15-0-4 record which gives him a wonderful ratio but he has been terrible to his team and therefore resulted in a loss.
This is how every pub game will take place if this is invented.... Watch it....
NO,NO,NO,if my team have a player really can do 15-0-4,even my team lose.He still is the good player in my team and he would not be the reason of losing.
1Kill mean stop our enemy farm and fat.I don know u guy talking like kill a enemy is a bad thing.
Actually,i give the point you talking about.But the point should be is it really can have a good record if a idiot play on purpose on the k/d/a record and not to win the match?
1.I don think the idiot can still kill any enemy and not die himself in the losing way match like 20-40.This is the reason the losing team can still have a player with a 15-0-4 record can not happen on purpose easily.
2.A hunting like idiots can really success?In fact,in the match we all want to kill a enemy all the time,but it would never success easily and u probably die if u fail.Everyone should know about that.
3.It mean, i am sure idiots will start hunting like idiots.But they would never success to have a good record.This is the main point.
4. I want u guy notice that.Your winning or not is all that matters.It mean the winrate right?Then,look to the top-50 player of winrate,they all have a nice k/d/a record.
Answering your points:
"1.I don think the idiot can still kill any enemy and not die himself in the losing way match like 20-40.This is the reason the losing team can still have a player with a 15-0-4 record can not happen on purpose easily."
Of course you can. Not dying is the easiest thing in the world, if you don't really mind the consequences it'll have for your team. All you gotta do is never be there.
"2.A hunting like idiots can really success?In fact,in the match we all want to kill a enemy all the time,but it would never success easily and u probably die if u fail.Everyone should know about that."
You're not playing to kill the enemy, you're playing to take their base down. If you want to kill people, pick any midgame carry like Riki, QoP, Clinkz etc and pick people off. It is that easy on pubs... You don't do it in a real game because it's not worth it, sure keeping them from farming is good, but you're not gonna keep the important people from farming like that, you're gonna pick the supports off, and the risks of doing this are not worth the benefits IF you're planning on winning...
If you just care about your stats, then fuck it... You're out of position while they push or engage your team? Are you getting outfarmed? Who cares, you might get a kill, you won't die, and you don't plan on helping your team later anyway...
"3.It mean, i am sure idiots will start hunting like idiots.But they would never success to have a good record.This is the main point."
I still play WC3 quite often, and there are a bunch of bots that track these stats, same thing for HoN, and sure enough, there are a bunch of players that do exactly what I'm saying... A bunch of my friends do it. They can't even last hit properly, have less then 40% WR, but believe they're gods because they have a 7+ KDR.
"4. I want u guy notice that.Your winning or not is all that matters.It mean the winrate right?Then,look to the top-50 player of winrate,they all have a nice k/d/a record."
Look again... 2 of the top 5 accounts have ~1.4 KDR, and one of them actually has a negative KDR.
You ran out of arguments and want to rely on you supposedly having more experience then me? Funny.
1. In fact,it mean nothing saying you can or not,because I believe they can't.
And I still don know why u saying they can not dying and kill a enemy is the easiest thing in the world.What are you thinking on your enemy?Your enemy should be pro,if you think the enemy are noob,it is worth noting to talk about.
3.
Like I said,I don care how they play in the match.Because,if they playing like you said,they would waste the match anyway.
The main point is they wonld not success to have a good record playing like that unless their enemy is full of noob. Don saying pick any midgame carry and pick people off is so easily on the pro match.You think your enemy don know there are pick people off easily hero here?And let you pick off easily?
2."You don't do it in a real game because it's not worth it, sure keeping them from farming is good, but you're not gonna keep the important people from farming like that,"
I believe more than 80% people should not know the answer,because the answer should be different on each match each single time on the match.And the real answer of not many player do it on the pro match is the enemy would not let you pick people off easily and it would let you easily die even if you fail or not.
4. That I really don know where you can see 2 of the top 5 accounts have ~1.4 KDR, and one of them actually has a negative KDR. Are you talking about the same rate with me?I am talking the average K+R-D of most use hero on the player font page.They all have a nice record average 4~6.And that is i hope average all of the hero and add to the top-50 playe.
1. I think of my opponents being exactly what they are, regular uncoordinated pub players. They're not noobs, they're not pros, they're just regular people who very rarely play together. I don't know why you would consider your opposing team as always being pros... Whenever I play against pros on MM they're not playing at pro level, and I highly doubt that you, having the majority of your recent games rated as low level, plays against anything close to pro level coordination often, if at all, actually.
3. I don't understand exactly what you're trying to say, but if you don't think it works, try it yourself... Or check the heroes pages and look at the heroes with the highest kills on average, you'll see a bunch of mid game characters like Riki... When it comes to actually winning, they don't even make it to the top 25, some even have the lowest winrate of the game.
2. So now you're telling me your opponents are complete idiots? Because that's the only way you're gonna be picking off their carries... I thought your opponents were like pros? Anyway, most supports don't have very good escape mechanisms, and rarely can afford one, not to mention they're the ones that get exposed to do the warding, so if you're gonna pick people off, they're the ones likely to fall for it...
4. The 3 wisp spammers. They have a lot of assists, but a very low KDR... Yeah, you can go ahead and say assists matter as well, will be put into KDA, and hell, I'd never disagree with that, assists matter a lot, which is why they're at the top... Thing is, people won't give a shit about assists if this ever comes in... You average 2/8/16? Then you'll get trashtalked for having 0.25 KD. Again, look at what happened to HoN.
And don't tell me it won't happen here, it doesn't even exist yet, and in this thread people have already said that assists don't mean as much as kills.
1. As if you understand,it won't success on pro match.Than you should know it won't success on regular match easily as well.
3. I am saying they won't work to give on the top-50 player of k+a-d. Considering the average k+a-d of the hero riki is 2.86 and win rate is not to the top 25,which is the regular match k+a-d record of riki. It is doubt that they can use i.e riki which k+a-d regular record is 2.86 to give on the top-50 player of k+a-d.
Because the top-50 player of k+a-d should be average 4~6.That I am saying they won't give this record even on the regular matches.
2. I think you misunderstanding my said and I don't know what you are meaning.
4. That is,the formula is (k+a)/d. Actually,assists is seeing like a kill as well. And again, the top-50 player of win rate,they all have a nice k+d-a record which average 4~6.
This is playing like you say can never give it even on the regular match. They need to kill 8 only if they die 2 to give the k+a-d record having 4 point, it just impossible.
I can give majority of positive reasons for adding the K+A-D average of all hero on the Players - Top 50 rate. But here, I only want to explain idiots or noobs would never give on the top 50 no matter how they planning to play.
"As if you understand,it won't success on pro match.Than you should know it won't success on regular match easily as well."
Pro games and pub games have absolutely nothing in common.
The way to think of it,is to look as a percentage. If you understand,it would 100% never success on pro match.Than you should know it won't have more than 50% success on regular match.
Beside,I believe it just impossible to happen even on the regular match.
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This feature is one of the most significants to be implemented in the site, actually i am surprised to not see see such a stat.
Keep up the good work!