Thats the problem with od imo. All he can do is dominate the lane and farm. He can't really contribute to the other lanes if they are being crushed hard.
Invoker fanboys incoming to moan about how OP OD is, because he "crushes" their favourite hero in 1v1 matchup.
Have asked almost similar question last month.
I got a lot of reply.
http://en.dotabuff.com/topics/2014-07-01-outworld-devourer-vs-storm-spirit-vs-puck
OD sort of falls into a quote I heard about Viper.
"He wins lanes not games." You put OD in mid and unless it is a razor or sniper you will win that game almost every time. How ever if OD doesn't take advantage of his lead early and start snowballing he falls of quite easy. How ever a farmed OD wrecks in the mid game harder than most hard carries.
I don't disagree with the lane comments but I think his real problem is bkb completely shuts him down. You can't imprison to escape, can't nuke, can't do much of anything. You can be dominating a game 10-2-5 or something, then the enemy str carries all get bkbs at ~30 mins and you begin to lose every single fight after that if they focus you. OD kind of needs to snowball.
afk mid almost never works, once he gets farm though he is prolly one of the strongest mid game heroes.
in order to play OD mid and be successful you need ur sidelanes not to feed like fucking shit
Maybe only so dominant in the trash bracket then, because people often buy bkb's, but its too late
Blunt i dont think that its the case man ..... like sidelanes needs to feed A LOOOOTTTTTTTTTTTTT so your farm gets to be useless, i have won games where my team was losing 1-14 at 15 minutes.
but when sidelanes get so fucked that the enemies heroes start to roam mid ..... well then you are pretty much fucked.
Chronic, OD usually buys hex or other kind of utility items ( atos orchid ), plus he buys forcestaff and he has astral to kite the bkb carry, he can deal with bkb just fine.
btw i dont really like midas, if you are in the trash bracket like i am try the build i go usually, it works really well in this shitty bracket :P ( forcestaff into atos )
I know i am only 3500 so my opinion is shit but i still think OD is really really strong.
@Mark
Funny because str carries suffer a lot against OD even if they have bkb, in the moment that their bkb goes down 2 hits plus your ulti its a secure kill.
Well maybe the od's we fight are not good but every time I face one, we just wait for bkbs and crush him.
I usually go midas->treads->force->hex->shivas and sometimes get bkb or refresher if that is good for the game. Once I got a pipe because we were getting rolled by sk and no one else responded to my request for one (i sold it and bought a bkb later cause gotta look out for #1)
He's shit in lategame, and needs to be played mid, because he needs the level advantage in order to do anything, I don't know the proper skillbuild for him but I ussualy max arcane aura and have lvl 1 orb, then I can have orb on autocast since lvl 7 and carry earlygame.
It's good if you are playing with stack and combine with other heroes (free mana points, AOE nuke and something like astral + arrow/hook/torrent)
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tl;dr version: OD good hero?
As part of my quest to becoming a decent player, I am trying out different heroes. It seems like if the enemy team has not too many int heroes, then I can pick od, go mid, get a ~6 minute midas, and kinda snowball once I get force->sheep. Other than a few awful misclicks in my last match for skill points (4,5,9), it seems od's skill build can be fairly static and not really reactive to the other team's picks. Is this likely to happen at higher mmr (say 3.2-3.5k), or do people actually not just forget about you until its far too late?