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Julien

    What is the most successful tactic this patch? In 6.81, I would pick a lane support and aggresively zone out enemy offlaner so my carry would roll the enemied OR get an aggresive carry and force my team to 5man with me and take all towers. That's how I used to stay above that rank.
    Now none of these work...

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    Trodlabundin

      evejobodi kno it men

      draft lategame
      farm efficiently
      manipulate mapcontroll in order to make enemy walk around map not farming efficiently
      rape enemy with farm advantage

      Julien

        Aha, and you employ these tacyics in your gamed aswell? How is it going?

        go kill urself

          push is always best if you can get your team to do it, some combo of pugna/thd/np and so on

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          nlnj_a

            Super early racks or late carry(s).

            Game is hard!

              It's pretty simple, the new meta does actually reward late game potential. Roaming and early push will still help you, but heroes with no mid/late game potential usually end up very useless.

              Sōu ka

                theres no hero in dota that works like that but okay

                Trodlabundin

                  @DeL

                  I have 65% winrate my past 2weeks, but it doesn't really go well.

                  I hate this patch, and waiting for next patch before I gonna grab dota up agian "hardcore" -wise.

                  one and half gun

                    dumb inflated euro cant keep up with his inflated mmr by 5 man pushing anymore

                    adorable

                    Julien

                      All opinions are welcome, lane support doesn't cut it for me anymore. Maybe I should start mastering another kind.

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                      Game is hard!

                        You can still go for lane support, but make sure it has some mid and lategame potential. That is also the reason why you see so much ogre latetly

                        Julien

                          Ogre isn't a lane support, they can't zone out!

                          Luxon

                            Ogre can zone out very well. Get shield and you can keep doing shit. Courier + stout+ tango and 2 clarities. Get soul ring and tranquils and never go to base again.

                            Zahard

                              i guess greedy carries are the best for winning in this patch

                              Dunning-Kruger-Doto

                                Greedy carries! I played greedy carries mainly before the patch and now. My mmr went up by nearly 400.

                                Sōu ka

                                  since the introduction of ranked games people with more than 500 ranked games are like 800+ mmr higher than they calibrated i guess so unless you're talking about a recent development that's really underwhelming

                                  Smed

                                    ES razor all the way ;D Oh and invoker is mean as fuck Sunstrike through bkb urn + coldsnap win

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                                    one and half gun

                                      soon you will get 50% winrate in ranked

                                      omg!!! congratulations

                                      one and half gun

                                        ive calculated u need about 500 games of razor to reach 50% winrate in ranked

                                        Dunning-Kruger-Doto

                                          Recent development aka just the new patch.

                                          Awakened

                                            Probably tactical feeding is new meta: http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/935430603

                                            Julien

                                              ^Tried that many times. Didn't work.

                                              BIG FAT DUCK

                                                http://www.dotabuff.com/heroes/winning

                                                try one of the top heroes offlane

                                                viable offlaners from a glance at the top heroes

                                                omni, necro, abaddon, centaur, panda, viper, warlock, zeus, earthshaker, void, riki (with change to riki's invis this works pretty well), veno, elder titan

                                                games are won by the offlane not feeding and later being useful despite having not much farm

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