General DiscussionHow to deal with a centaur safelane strat ?

bumped since legit question i would like to see answered

naix

Lifestealer is a good core against him in lane. Also if you are support just stack the camp, when theres 2 spawns monsters in the easy camp pull it so he cant even get any exp or gold.

Jugg, Huskar, Weaver imo can be a good safelaners against him too.

what is so particularly scaryabout a safelane centaur?

early vanguard and heart and the enemy team can just run straight on to your towers with centaur in the front. game too early that your team cant burst him down witth magical damage, game late enough that your right clicks start to matter so his passive takes considerable effect

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Laser Centaur is where its at

timber

Uh the dmg of your right clicks doesn't have anything to do with return dmg, it scales based on centaur's strength, not your attack dmg. But late it is still super strong cus cent stacks str.

I actually think it's not really cent safe that was the issue so much as their entire team build around a push lineup which you couldn't stop. They have shadow shaman, tinker and bm. Which means tinker can march a tower clearing out all the creeps before they reach it while shaman's ult and bm's creeps go ham on the tower. Sub drow for cent, it's same result. It's really more how do you stop this all out push I think.

And I don't really know, void seems good cus he can init, blow up tinker, but you need more to go with him, I don't love luna here cus her glaive gets split between bm's creeps and her range is too short to be effective with void. But your luna also farmed like crap, 27 min yasha, never got manta. And you guys have good lanes.

Noted for the advice on using lifestealer .
Yeah I always go for tinker but they have the silencer which always save his global silence for me. So whenever I got a good tinker bm, or tinker centa my team can't do any damage to him without any spell. And I can't escape with timewalk.
We have good Lane until the centa got crimson guard and pipe. They start pushing and we can't stop it.

@ywn timber in offlane or mid? But they have silencer , and I'm no good at using timber

If I remember correctly the passive doesn't work on illusion anymore (actually it seemed like a joke, u could get a heart and send illusions to the towers and they would have suicided rofl).

Anyway, if the problem is the return dmg of the passive even a silver edge could do the job. If the problem is a early push strat, get counter pushers. If the problem if the fact that the hero gets too tanky to deal with, just kite it as u would do with a bb and kill the rest of the team.

then gitgud at using timber

1k noob says use elder titan support against any push strats. Also his ult recks high health tanks.

it makes no sense since manta centaur was patched
just play normally and farm things

The main problem is as direwolf said, we can't stop the push when centa start getting his item

timber rapes centaur

If u delay centaurs really early heart and blink he is pretty bad. He needs to farm really fast and get those items as soon as possible. Centaur does farm very fast, but if u can delay it with timber banks with a disable cent will die early game.

I mean pretty bad as a safe carry

Thanks all for the reply, will try to gitgud using timber.

n a ' i x + n e c r o p h o s

why on earth do you need to deal with that? it's trash and you can just get bkb and run past him, kill the rest of his team

what kind of an idiot would focus a tank?

you ever played an mmo?

Your team just doesn't have enough right click/anti push. Luna should be able to counter push but farmed slow. Luna early is all magic dmg with eclipse, she never got the items to be a right clicker. Shadow demon's dmg takes forever to amp with those poisons. Not a nuker really. Disruptor is pure disable, hardly any dmg. Lina is shut down heavily by silencer since she wants to spam spells to get stacks of soul up, which she can't do under curse or take too much dmg. And of course silencer ult. And yourself on void you didn't get any dmg items, manta + diffusal would've done a ton of work that game but I get it, hard to farm in that game.

You guys built a magic heavy disable heavy team that looks like a 4 protect 1 around that luna. Shadow demon + disruptor roles overlap. Both are disablers with poor nuke dmg. Both can potentially go through bkbs. I think sub one of them out for a nuker support like ogre or lion and you fare better. And swap lina or luna out for like drow and build aghs maelstrom or sniper and shrapnel spam when they push and it's a totally different game.

just kite him lmao

or pick heroes that can outright kill him easily, AW/ursa/drow or whatever

SD + luna should beat a cent unless it gets out of hand