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Andre Kairalla

    Hey guys!
    I was trying to play and spam anti mage (just because playing him is fun haha) but i have been losing my recent games.
    My winrate with him dropped quite a bit, so could anyone advice me in what am i doing wrong?

    Wrath

      Picking am is what you are doing wrong.

      michael sassbender

        your skill build is wrong, you need to max blink over Q. you also need to finish your treads before battlefury so you can tread switch to maximise efficiency when jungling. other than that just farm and split push until you are way ahead of their carry, at that point just end game with ur team

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          buy talon + quelling blade and also are u srs with this?

          mr. rabbit

            @afeect wdym by that, 150 health > 20 damage?

            doc joferlyn simp

              you cant put skillpoints into stats anymore antimage feels too squishy and will blow up if get ganked on and stunned for by just a few seconds, in this fast tempo meta 150 is a lifesaver

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              doc joferlyn simp

                since youve got no choice but to level your other skills, a second point into mana break will more than make up for the opportunity cost of the talent pickup. now with that qb + talon stack to rack up insane damage i dont even think its necessary

                Lifeline

                  Either you max mana break to kick the melee offlaner out of the lane or you get lvl 2 on mana break and max blink afterwards
                  You'd only want blink maxed by the time you get battle fury which is usually on lvl 11
                  Treads before BF is braindead mandatory, if you go for brown boots into BF or even BF instantly just because you think you'll farm faster (omg faster bf faster farm!!!!) you better pick braindead heroes like PA or WK because you know nothing about efficiency
                  Farming pattern for early game is quite simple, once you get treads you push the wave, eat the side camp, and get back to the lane once the creep equilibrium gets reset
                  Don't destroy the enemy tier 1 until you're capable of jungling because of this
                  Also try the 600 LH 30 min on empty lobby challenge

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                    @pyontan yes 150 health is better than 20 dmg in 99% of the matches.

                    Andre Kairalla

                      Most of my games i finish boots before BF,i just go straight BF if i'm farming very well

                      I feel like a noob, i really though 20 damage was way better, thanks guys hahahaha

                      About the iron talon, it was probably a game where i cound't farm in lane. Is it good to pick iron talon?

                      I dont know if its wrong, but sometimes I max spell shield so its hard to get me out of lane :P is that too noob? hahaha

                      My farming pattern is more or less like you said, but my problem is that usually i suffer too much harass in the early game, especially when there's a jungler in my team

                      Gonna try the tips, thanks for the answers guys :)

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                        aFeect

                        yes 150 health is better than 20 dmg in 99% of the matches.

                        I'm not a AM player but I also think the 20 dmg is > than 150 health. I mean, 20 dmg speeds up your farming capabilities. Is it situational to pick either talents or 99% all the time we must choose 150 health?

                        Shou

                          Spell shield gives great value for its first point but unless they have some dumb shit like zeus ember veils and huskar i wudnt go for a second point let alone max it. Also even if ur farming well treads before bf is still better as tread switching allows u to farm to ur bf better and sustain ur jungling better. Also learn to tread switch for am, its quite mandatory on this hero.

                          doc joferlyn simp

                            in 1% of the matches afegt was talking about, the game would be really slow like both teams have zero ganking/sieging ability allowing for the +20 damage pickup to be of more value to the 150 health, since with that game youd win just by overfarming, whereas versus something even reminiscent of a ganking lineup its far better to take 150 health

                            what use would you have with that damage if you cant even survive two seconds of being stunned

                            CUTNPASTE

                              I like the +20 damage talent as you are usually just farming on AM.

                              Jacked

                                I like the +150 hp as im usually just dying over and over as am

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                                doc joferlyn simp

                                  ^amen

                                  Potato Marshal

                                    Just pick the talents according to the situation at hand. If they have things like silences, long stuns, or something like legion that can stop you from blinking away for several seconds, get the +150 hp. Get the +20 damage otherwise.

                                    Andre Kairalla

                                      Tryed the 150 HP talent and it seens to work, thanks guys haha
                                      Even though sometimes it looks like you need that 20 damage for farming/geting kills

                                      🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                                        Youd be stupid not to take the +20 damage, youre gonna use that 150 hp to farm with lmao??

                                        Am is not a ganker, he goes farming like a lil fuck

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