General Discussionis Legion commander the most retarded dota 2 hero ?

Q: Very strong nuke, with high CD however high MS gain and its quiet easy to get max MS, which is not useless
W: Strong dispel, which helps sustain and increases DPS by a nice amount
E: Heal, Additional DPS
R: Strong disable with low CD , very good against meta heroes ATM

In general I would think she is very strong in this meta however quiet underrated atm. Also one of the harder snowball heroes

1. Nice smurf
2. Most people suck with Legion cause they just AFK farm jungle then come out with literally nothing at 15 minutes, you're right about that.
3. Legion Commander > You

@Iwin4arka not to mention her press the attack removes most negative status effects

This guy is so dumb.

Overwhelming odds makes you dominate the lane, and is still useful in the mid game and even late game fights because of the MS buff which is always good, also later in the game the creep waves are way bigger so its actually a very good spell to def the highground because you will just one shot the creep wave and deal like 400 magical damage to whoever went close to the creeps.

Press the attack is not just for the atk speed, it purges almost every debuff in the game and it also heals, even if the heal is minimal in the late game it's still a very good spell for sieging towers, you use PTA on your aegis carrier and he destroys the tower without puting your whole team in the highground or you can use it on yourself.

MOC may be true that its only good if you won a lot of duels, but thats the point of the hero if you're able to snowball and get many duels you will be a good carry but not the best depending on the game and if you fall behind you are still useful with the things I mentioned above, sieging, defending and being able to disable an important target for a very long time.

Jungle legion sucks, because shes much stronger in lane now after the buffs she received but you can still have a good game if you go jungle, and I think hand of midas rush is the best build if you're jungling.

LC ult is like doom ult you can't run away from.

Which is broken with good player

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OO: Are you retarded, it gives you max movement speed if you hit a lvl4 OO well, it makes it much easier for you to manipulate the fight to your needs, to run at their supports, kill them, then go for carries, etc. This is what makes LC very hard to kite if you get a BKB, it's just so good, you can blink in and start hitting people right away, sometimes it's preferable to just blink dueling targets, which you can and should still do against escapey heroes. This skill actually scales with your damage because you are more likely to hit shit if you can come near it.

PTA: It's especially useless if you cast it on your void when he throws a chrono down, yeah right. Are you retarded? That's +120 attack speed, it's huge. It also gives you effective HP in a fight, so it's still doing good work, however little you think it is, and that's why you build armor on this hero, lifesteal will be huge and so will regen, if you build protective enough with bkb/ac/blademail/etc. Even if you're behind you can aid your carry/carries with something that actually scales with their damage, also it's a FUCKING STRONG DISPEL. Lategame they hex your carry, and you go BAM dispell'd. If you think PTA does not scale, you're just delusional.

MoC: The whole fucking point of this skill is to give you sustain if you hit hard, and then to hit even harder. The argument that it's useless if you don't hit hard is fucking great. By this logic Sven's cleave is fucking shit because, you know, if he does not have a daedalus, ult and some attack speed, it just doesn't do much damage, amirite. By the same logic, any lifesteal any hero has is shit if he does not have any damage. If you're behind on LC but still can almost kill people, going to farm something like deso is a good start, it's cheap, it will let you leverage any damage that you do, so if it is a border line kill (like, the guy would live if you had 10 less damage), just go for deso. It's also good for the LC rat build with +dmg, BoTs and deso/ac.

Duel: How is duel retarded? It locks down escape heroes so they can't do shit. It's kind of a combination of winter's curse, beastmaster's ult and doom all in one package, and with blademail you can also leverage the other carry's damage, so you can build really tanky to kill any carry, esp manfight carries who can bash you and hit real hard but don't have much raw HP (which you care about because blademail reflects pure).

You do realize that with the blademail build, you can kill an ember spirit, no matter how farmed, IF he does not build a linkens? You'll always have more HP than that fucker, and if you get blademail blink early there's literally nothing he can do, you can kill him every time even with zero duel damage, with just PTA, MoC, Blink and Blademail. AM is squishy but hits fast and mana burns a nice amount with just battlefury. When you find a battlefury only AM, he just shits himself. And so is true for many other heroes. Jugg is duel fodder, if he does not get his bladefury off, as well, and he's kinda squishy if he can be controlled that much, he just hits kinda hard. Legion has such an ability set that allows her to remove her opponents's active spells from the 1v1 fight. What this means is that, well, yeah, jugg can definitelly ult and kill you if caught alone, but if you jump him and let him beat himself on blademail, it's two people hitting jugg, so he dies in seconds. If you're smart you counter a lot of active shit as a LC, and work around the passives like crit, bash, lifesteal, incapacitating bite, etc.

Also, I did play a lot of jungle LC, because retards pick greedy shit like am, sf AND spectre on top of that, on the same team, so naturally jungle is where I have to go, and at that point lanes are weak and game's already lost because I didn't get the lane I asked for, meanwhile their safelane carry is melee and his support can't zone for shit, but it does not matter cause we have an offlane spectre. So I'll agree with you that just jungling for 12 minutes is retarded, but if you're half competent, you get your blink at 7 minutes if you don't walk around the map, you just have to hope the game is not lost enough that you can't get a blink+duel on somebody.

Also, windranger also has sub 50% winrate, is it a shit hero? Your last game against LC that fucking LC had 3k damage, what the fuck man:

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1974241419

LC deals a ton of damage and can get a lot of solo pickoffs, the player was just fucking trash, if you base your opinion of a hero on trash players, you're just really shit, despite somehow playing in VHS.

maybe the problem is bitches keep putting press the attack on themselves at full hp to get attack speed while they run in. I spam that shit on my frontliners, rarely use it on myself outside of duels. spam it on guys like slark and sf. Course I suck with lc and have low win rate so what do I know. I think shes balanced though, needs to snowball, strong in lane, not op.

LC is fine, but people are playing her wrong... very wrong... at least in my games in both teams. Going lvl1 jungle and shit

I always instapick LC and mark offlane. If people pick timbersaw/clock/cent/typical offlaner after that, well ok guys you just decreased the chances of us winning, because now I will jungle and our lanes are weak.

lc will rekt ur smurf

^if he spams ember, sure, and if LC pickers are not brain dead.

Not to sound like a hipster, but I really loved it when the hero was less popular, now everyone is playing it and usually playing it really badly and it gives me cervical cancer every time I see really stupid builds.

A bad LC teammate is super annoying but hero is ok

That lastpick jungling LC is ruining so many pub games right now. LC is actually a viable and strong laner, good mid game snowballer. Hits the meta heros that rely on extreme mobility really hard.

^ last pick jungle is not so bad cause every single time i first pick lc my team forces me to jungle so it doesnt even matter if 1st or last pick anymore

It is almost like this silly ancient necro trend. It was shit. It was objectively a ~35% win rate pick. But whenever someone picked necro they assumed it was ancients.

Sometimes something dumb and wrong gets the norm anyway and the people that are unable to think for themselves will even scorn you for not doing the wrong thing.

i got a domb americon as leegion lest geim

^ two diffusal for both hands right

^ anime fa.g, right

Legion is not a garbage hero. Jungle Legion is garbage.

if u know how to jungle legion you wont call it garbage :<