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General DiscussionGood carry against Sven?

Good carry against Sven? in General Discussion
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    any ideas?

    LeHowl James

      Slark

      Tsuna-Fro

        Slark or u can pick support like shadow demon.

        Fee Too Pee

          Wraith king

          Veno Jungle = No read no ...

            How to win team fight against sven using slark? Help pls

            yung griphook

              you purge the stun or ulti if youre getting low, let agi stacks keep building. If you get really low run behind trees or something to regen and come back in the fight if theres a chance you can win it

              Tsuna-Fro

                Of course u gonna lose against sven with god strength if he stun slark theres nothing much u can do only ulti can help u. But u can predict his stun and purge it using dark pact.

                Mekarazium
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                  Aurora-

                    No way u can win a teamfight as slark vs Sven without proper contribution from ur allies. A good sven will patiently wait until at least 2 of u come close to each other, then he will pop ulti and bkb and jump and stun and whack them to death. Nothing u can do to prevent this as slark.

                    Tsuna-Fro

                      ^a good slark player also will wait until the right time to enter the fight.

                      Fee Too Pee

                        Fucking wraith king

                        sin blyadi

                          only slark or weaver

                          Fee Too Pee

                            Lul weaver deal no damage . Nice linken rush mate. Nice damage mate. Like 1 stun and u dead

                            cat

                              wraith king

                              ywn

                                morph

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                                  abaddon

                                  Versatile God

                                    Farmed Doom or Brewmaster is so far best carries to counter sven. Sven was kryptonite of slark kids. Just warcry while slark ulti and bkb while hitting his team mates around or creeps ez cleave then pop GS then stun when slark ulti gone.

                                    sin blyadi

                                      weaver is not supposed to kill 1v1 sven. But if u have something strong in the late game that can deal with sven later on u can pick weaver cuz there is no way sven reach weaver to hit

                                      sisyphus

                                        as a carry you either kill sven by limiting the number of autoattacks he can do through bashes/other forms of disable or by kiting him around

                                        you don't have a chance if both of you just stand there trading hit for hit (unless you're ursa maybe)

                                        TripleSteal-

                                          morphling, medusa.

                                          TripleSteal-

                                            nor slark neither wk are good

                                            Filthy

                                              Slark has an advantage against Sven . Especially outside of team fights but once u got skadi to help kite him for your team even in team fights he's prob at a disadvantage vs slark .

                                              TheMaverick427

                                                Slark can kite Sven and annoy him, but a smart Sven isn't going to waste his time chasing after the slark. He's going to hit Slark's team and theres nothing Slark can really do to stop him if Sven has a bkb. Sure slark can chase down Sven's Team but Sven should be able to kill off Slark's team a lot faster then Slark can kill Sven's team.

                                                Ultimately it will depend on which team can deal with the opposing carry better. In a 1 vs 1 fight without teammates, Slark wont be able to beat the Sven but Sven shouldn't be able to catch the Slark and Kill him either.

                                                Usually its the rest of the team that counters Sven with slows and Disables, but any mobile ranged hero who can kite Sven while doing damage is good. Heroes like Morph fit this but Medusa with stone gaze can also slow down a Sven, although she wont have the damage early on to kill him. Drow is good provided Sven doesn't manage to blink on her. Invoker can do a lot when BKB is down. Storm Spirit is also someone Sven will struggle with. Sniper provide he doesn't get blinked on. Terrorblade but only during metamorphosis. He will lose to Sven if meta is down.

                                                If you really want to 1 vs 1 him then ursa and Troll warlord can do it provided they're not far behind (although remember Sven will probably outfarm both of them)

                                                Honestly just pick Shadow Demon and Ult him the moment he pops BKB and then laugh as he cant hit anyone. If he doesn't pop bkb then use your other 3 spells to kill him.

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                                                fabi

                                                  Necro :D

                                                  sayaka

                                                    nor slark neither wk are good

                                                    nice ruski eng

                                                    Final Boss

                                                      best carry vs sven is troll by far. Troll can rape sven throughout the game given both have close farm. Ursa always loses a 1v1 against sven you can try it in lobby. Terrorblade can beat Sven in 1v1 as long as he has meta up and doesnt use his conjure image cause if sven crits on the image then the real tb gets less than half hp in one hit. To beat sven in 1v1 you need to get diffusal, linken's sphere, skadi, assault, satanic and crits since most lobby 1v1 fights are without boots. You can replace either crits or assault cuirass with boots if you really wanna try with boots. Morphling is the best counter to sven cause sven cant kill him fast enough and he is really annoying when he just one shots someone on your team and then runs away.

                                                      TripleSteal-

                                                        well, neither slark nor wk

                                                        LP

                                                          Pudge

                                                          herald rank prodigy

                                                            Legion could work very well if you get good duel.

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                                                            5THLEGION

                                                              A good WK dumpsters sven back to the stone age

                                                              Dr. Banana

                                                                Some pro match where some pro (possibly bulldog) messed up Arteezy's Sven with NP.

                                                                I've tried it in a bot match and it really works once you've got the right items (deso, hurricane pike, mjollnir, vyse/bloodthorne etc). If you're in normal skill (like me) the sven might not even buy ablade/talon/bf/force staff(?). Once you get hurricane pike he won't be able to cast his q on you. Of course, this is in a bot match. I haven't played NP much (because at the time I didnt know anything about him, but I do know now) but I'm sure I'll start playing him soon.

                                                                Also, you should ask yourself, do you really need to fight him 1v1? Try thinking of some good combos that can counter him, such as ls+slardar.

                                                                Hope I could help.

                                                                Edit: Oh OK your in VHS. I don't know what to do then. Combos still work.

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                                                                Filthy

                                                                  Slark .

                                                                  Vem Comigo

                                                                    Sven wrecks slark.
                                                                    Try Spectre TA OD Natures.
                                                                    Tanky carrys or the ones that can mitigate armor and kite him.

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                                                                    Ariaflutter.Ataraxia

                                                                      no one mension URSA? WITH AGHANIMS?

                                                                      as slark if you not ready and get jumped by sven it's 100% death!

                                                                      as ursa with aghanims, even if you are stunned. you can just press R and mitigate 80% of the damage and can retunr to kill him.

                                                                      Ariaflutter.Ataraxia

                                                                        get ursa with aghanims + abyssal. bkb if you are going to get disabled. let sven and his team jumps on you. ez prey.

                                                                        sven so rare to get shit like abyssal.

                                                                        bogey654

                                                                          It's not a carry, but quas wex Invoker is Sven's bane. It just gets hard while Sven has his early bkb charges. Ice Wall, Tornado and EMP are your best friends here. If you don't have the skill for Invoker you can take a Spectre or something that ignores armour, Warcry is insanely powerful but without it Sven is not crazy tanky (assuming even farm, of course.) Lastly, Axe could be good as Call can really mess up Sven's positioning and Battle Hunger can be a real pain (not so much with creeps around.)

                                                                          Illyasviel

                                                                            grab Rod of Atos before he got dag&bkb, ez kite

                                                                            .GENGHIS.

                                                                              Bane / Medusa.

                                                                              Len

                                                                                Get omni

                                                                                Totentanz to The King: M ...

                                                                                  Sven is the hero I struggle the most against lately. One of the better heroes against him is Ember I guess.

                                                                                  Vem Comigo

                                                                                    ^ depends of the ember, if he gets close to sven and doesnt have any way to avoid the stun a sven with echo will 2 shoot him with ult

                                                                                    Even a Lifestealer that eats people trough armor has problems with sven, because of the huge dmg output that he can dish out.
                                                                                    On a 1v1 with anyone 6 sloted, sven is one of the strongest heros this patch.

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                                                                                    banja

                                                                                      windranger with deadalus and aghs is always good against a tank like that, once you get a goode shackle

                                                                                      M u r d e r

                                                                                        I think you misspelled Bloodthorn.

                                                                                        stupid fuck 2000

                                                                                          It's not about heroes, it's about items and in that case rod of atos baby.

                                                                                          Rambo Zambo

                                                                                            Ta is Best vs Sven.

                                                                                            xupxq_

                                                                                              surely Terrorblade is the worst enemy for sven, check out his armor dude! rofl

                                                                                              TheBlackSword

                                                                                                Jug, shit ton of free damage with ult and you can buy manta if his stun is disabling you. Bane is a good support because his ult pierces spell immunity and has a long duration.

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                                                                                                Besn1q 3.0

                                                                                                  slark counter to sven?

                                                                                                  Oh boy, stop posting, ty

                                                                                                  Morph, PA, slardar, troll, Arc, Tinker, OD

                                                                                                  Most of those heroes are shit tho, the only ones you should actually pick are morph, arc, tinker and situational slardar.

                                                                                                  BTC

                                                                                                    @Sakamoto : but then he can just hit your teammate to deal those insane cleave damage.

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                                                                                                    stupid fuck 2000

                                                                                                      Jugg good against sven? LUL Yeah im sure its hard to press armor spell when jugg ults you or anyone in your team. After jugg ult is over, he's just a melee creep to sven.