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General Discussiondoes apm matter?

does apm matter? in General Discussion
zDonFrank

    recently i have been checking my matches stats and realize im constantly hitting over 300 apm while most of the players are between 100-200.

    do you think it matters in dota 2?

    casual gamer

      not super important i am always lowest apm lol

      faw

        over 300 apm??

        do u have auto right click enabled, and if no, are u autistic?

        zDonFrank

          @fw. i have auto right click enabled

          faw

            ye, that inflates ur APM to shit

            having 300 apm for 60 minutes is pretty much impossible to have, esp so if u're talking about effective APM

            zDonFrank

              @fw, fyi, most of my apm count come from (S), (A) and (M).

              most people have auto right click enabled and they dont hit over 300.

              The DarKNovA

                I have anywhere between 170 and 240 usually, no auto right click, and I'm not at 6k at all, so guess it ain't matter that much.

                Ghastly Wail

                  [irony] 300 apm for 60 minutes is pretty much impossible?

                  You ever heard of StarCraft / StarCraft2? [/irony]

                  yeah i know you do :P

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                  The DarKNovA

                    Isn't (M) what you get from right click usually though?

                    Beks

                      my normal is 115 and too much apm is 150

                      zDonFrank

                        miracle-,747,yapzor and few others has average 400-500 apm

                        jerax has average 300 apm

                        most other pros 100-200.

                        faw

                          300 apm != effective apm

                          sure i can get 500 apm if i hold right click all game / swap between control groups (or thats what u cna do in sc2), but that apm is completele useless

                          TripleSteal-

                            no it doesnt matter

                            The DarKNovA

                              Back when people used to tell it keeps people a bit more aware and react faster to certain situations, but I don't think that matters much above a certain APM, or that it even stood true ever.

                              Ryan Gosling Fan

                                There a German Streamer pleb who Shows his 500 apm to Everyone who want to See it, and still gets rekt by 4k all Day long

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                                Ghastly Wail

                                  Damn that german Streamer is not able to win 1v5 with 500 apm?
                                  He cant win a TEAMgame alone?
                                  Damn he is doing everything wrong.
                                  He should be 500mmr ...

                                  🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                                    idk, i never had spazm

                                    what do you need 300+ apm for

                                    it's like you're bashing your keyboard with a rock

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                                    D
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                                      it doesn't matter at all. I have ~ 200 on avg and in some games I have mid 100 and in some where I play some heroes that require micro or has illusions can go all the way from mid 200 to 300 apm, but I have a lot of useless clicks x)

                                      basement :)

                                        Lower apm seems to be better. Clicking more can cause mistake clicks.

                                        The DarKNovA

                                          I'll translate <3 Roshan:
                                          "I have very low APM"

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                                          basement :)

                                            No. I used to spam unnecessary clicks until I realize they were sometimes causing errors. Often 1 click will do the same as many.

                                            The DarKNovA

                                              Well, spamming clicks can cause mistake, but generally having high APM is not a bad thing, unless it's unnecessarily high. like what you said, spamming.

                                              Chill

                                                well didnt believe at first but apparently miracle had 500 apm for this game
                                                https://www.opendota.com/matches/3011433403/actions
                                                but i think its because he mostly use normal cast

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                                                Beks

                                                  i have nromal cast as tinker and have 500 games with the hero still getting 130 150 amp xD

                                                  Beks

                                                    @ Until player
                                                    miracle had 10k MV( P) rest were all very low
                                                    whats MV ?

                                                    Chill

                                                      ^number of times player moved from a position

                                                      Jacked

                                                        We all know you're trying to brag frank. But no it doesn't matter you cuk

                                                        GLARE

                                                          3 humble-brag threads on page 1.

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                                                          basement :)

                                                            I thought I averaged 50 apm because I almost always play when exhausted. It turns out, I was playing much faster than most people. Around 300 when I am tired. Over 400 when I am feeling well. Averaging at 350 (http://www.opendota.com/players/79856244/trends/actions_per_min). Average is at 330 currently because I was intentionally feeding in low priority. On the far left the graph, the average is much higher because that was when I was making unnecessary clicks. Searching through the replays, most people play at around 150 apm.

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                                                            Player 404335202

                                                              whats apm ?

                                                              doc joferlyn simp

                                                                Actions per Minute. Basically clicks with your mouse and taps of your keyboard.

                                                                jo~

                                                                  no
                                                                  i have a 7k friend who plays naga~meepo with 110 apm lol
                                                                  its about efficient clicks

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                                                                  CUTNPASTE

                                                                    I have high apm but it's mainly because I have auto-attack on so when I last hit in the early phase I tend to spam s/h a lot more than average. It's not really reflective of skill as long as you have above 100 or so.

                                                                    basement :)

                                                                      Why do you have auto attack on?

                                                                      The DarKNovA

                                                                        Yeah, I tried turning on the auto rightclick function, since it seems like it doesn't really have any bad side to it.
                                                                        Instantly went from 180-220 APM to 350-400, even without spamming it at all, i just played the regular way, not even leaving the right click pushed usually.
                                                                        Oh yeah, and it didn't make me a better player.

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                                                                        Gabba Gabba Games TTV

                                                                          Any way to tell your APM in a game?

                                                                          The DarKNovA

                                                                            I can tell you that your APM in your last match was 394, and 346 with Riki.