qop snowballs harder than lina, she builds into mjollnir often, and can right click hard with mjollnir bloodthorn ac and shit
mjollnir makes her so hard to kill cuz of that spell lifesteal
so kka stats are inflated because hes mainly picked by top teams but qop stats arent deflated even though shes exclusively picked by bottom teams? 
Lina lost 4 games, no wins, so maybe neither is a good pick. I just don't think qop is good, she's been well under 50% win rate all brackets for a long time.
Current meta is very ability focused, because economy is slower than ever. So many teams draft crowd control heavy and nuke heavy lineups. Because if you have more crowd control and initiation, enemy barely is able to use their abilities and die before your team. Another trend is summons sieging and their counters Mjolnir carriers. Sometimes certain teams go for 4 protect 1 around heroes like Anti-mage.
Main thing I notice is illusion heroes like PL and TB did very well yesterday. Anyone have stats for them?
Regards
Gecko
You're conclusion is right but reason is wrong. Economy is actually quite fast, the meta is super fast an xp comes easy so fights break out sooner which is why they're picking ability heroes over super hard carry.
PL, 3-2, TB 2-0. So yes they did good but not picked much.
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Can you stop putting Regards Gecko under everything like a retard?
Regards
Sam
What I noticed was that Night Stalker is the most banned hero (still true so far, I think) which I also chose in my predictions. While most analysts and casters chose Earthshaker as being the most banned, he is in fact picked quite often (not sure if most picked).
Personally, I'd rather play against Earthshaker than Night Stalker. There are more signature Earthshaker players in the pro scene, but I feel players and teams can just dominate with Night Stalker the way he's been reworked.
As for Faceless Void, I'm surprised he's still being picked in the offlane position. I thought at the current stage of the game, he's too greedy and farm oriented to be picked in offlane and fits as the safe lane carry better.
NS is really a good hero ever since that rework, he is still decent even when he got nerfed recently
I'm surprised he's still being picked in the offlane position
Can hold lane until min 5✔
Okay laning potential✔
Teamfight utility✔
Mobility✔
BKB piercing gamebreaking ulti✔✔✔✔✔✔✔✔✔✔✔✔✔✔✔✔✔✔
Its almost like I didn't say anything in addition to what you quoted me saying. Tunnelling down and attacking half a statement without actually finishing it and wondering why it was made in the first place. I'm not even gonna bother to counter argue your pointwise statements like "Okay laning potential". Or I'll be forced to stoop to your level and use "Gamebreaking" as the center of your argument and then pound down on it.
I'm surprised too, void'd being overpicked but still going almost 50/50 isn't bad for that many picks. He's not too strong or weak. I think you have to draft around him though a lot. You need dmg to go into chrono or it's kinda worthless, and you need other carries if he's your safelane cus he does very little dps on his own until fully 6 slotted and he doesn't farm that fast. If I was playing void safe I'd want another 1/2 type hero in mid like invoker, naga, tb, jug, something that will scale into late game and do a lot of tower dmg and physical dmg to teams, which yes, invoker and naga do physical dmg late game and lots of it.
Night stalker is getting picked but not winning. I guess I'd have to watch some replays to have an idea why.
NS is just a dumb hero. The fact you can choke their vision for so long (more than 50% of the time even if it was day all the time except for when you used your ulti) after level 18 is just horrible to play against. It makes you paranoid.
Not to mention he has like 700 HP, 6 armor, 65 base damage and 1.75 base regen (goes up to 3.13 with his STR) just makes him a retarded hero in the laning stage as well.
damn that is some retarded stats, I'm gonna have to lane him more. He's not winning a ton though. 5-8. Not that good for all his advantages.
Thank god they're not picking sk as much as they did in epicenter. ....I won't be able to take another nerf.....also they aren't picking brood as much as I thought they would ....time to learn brood cuz she probably getting more buffs now and she's almost broken now
They should just stick with furion and ursa mid strats even alche mid with vanguard no kappa xD
^this is why u will never escape 4k
Also anal boi is triggered?
Also lycan seems to be doing extremely well for himself
my boi tusk did pretty well
WHAT NOW SPIRIT BREAKER FAN GAYS? (cough2 SB best hero in other threads , cough2, one stun from support while charging = ded)
Tb is good because he have a good early game presence not like am who just farms but he also had a good lategame.
Pl seems to be working but i think he is just a good hero when picked right
and lion still not picked , and i doubt it will picked , out of all general roaming hero that i played , i baffled by lion abilities , literally ranged creep with no threat
@Direwolf
Part of the reason why NS is not doing well is that his effectiveness falls of late game due to the fact that he has no ultimate that helps in major teamfight.
With aghs he is a very good mobile observer ward but that ability alone is not going to help 5v5 skirmishes per se.
He can tank but late game dps usually overcome that. If your team doesn't captilize the early game advantage NS provides and snowball from there comeback late game is hard.
Regards
Gecko
Nyx still maintaining that super high win rate. And getting a ton of bans for it, 2nd most banned. Where the hell did nyx come from? Like sleeper hero.
Sven is also kicking major ass. I'm not super surprised he got big buffs and is a popular pro pick before.
Silencer fell off, which surprises me, and qop finally started to snowball in some games and is back to 45% win rate. Actually higher than puck right now.
Spectre has yet to be picked which kinda shocks me. Picked a lot at previous valve events.
Heroes not picked yet, huskar, meepo, warlock, clinkz, lion, abba, tiny, bane, wk, pudge, sky, spectre, techies. I'm pretty sure techies and tiny won't get picked at all cus they suck. Alliance was like the last team clinging to the tiny io combo. I think we'll probably get one huskar cheese pick, same with meepo. Rest don't seem bad enough to never pick. Very surprised no spec, warlock, lion, bane or clinkz picks yet. Arteezy I guess has moved on to veno but he loves him some clinkz usually. I don't think bane or lion are that great but pros seem to enjoy them, and warlock is just a damn good hero, one of the top contested last time.
Ns doesn't buy aghs anymore
They buy shit like pipe and solar and halberd for the exact reason u mentioned gecko
Regards,
STOP FUCKING SAYING REGARDS U MONGOL FUCK
we got our first clinkz pick! Though I don't love the rest of secrets draft, weaver vs enigma, bat, es, sk? That's a crapton of lockdown for him. Though SB pick is strong of course.
I'm guessing the meta will shift dramatically once the group stage ends. A lot of teams are still hiding their key strategies and trying out experimental drafts in the group stage. The elimination games are probably where cheese picks like huskar and meepo will come out. Also I am amazed at Spec and Bane still being unpicked.
I think meta wouldn't shift dramatically. There is always room for small cheeses here and there, like safe monky, mid mama, Shadow Blade Alch, no aghs Invoker, etc, but teams stick to whatever they did before mostly.
Meta is 6.88ish
Everything seems alright
As with void, I'm actually wondering why are you questioning him being played as pos 3, offlane haven't changed much except for that no pre min 5 shrine which makes self sustainable heroes like him more viable
He had always a been solid situational until the time dilation nerf and even until then he was still a decent situational pick
His "flaws" are overweighted by other things he brings to the table and the overall draft which is exactly why he's "situational"
But yea he's rather overpicked right now
Void had 100% win rate in his first 8 picks. Then teams started to spam him and eventually his win rate came down and teams started to avoid void.
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Only one day in so far but we can start discussion hero picks and update throughout the tournament.
I watched about 5 matches yesterday though while multitasking so not my full attention. First thing that struck me was how much void was being picked, despite a lot of those picks seemingly lacking in team cohesion. Teams were picking him offlane, carry and even mid once. Like EG picked him for mid with wyvern, arteezy veno, batrider, elder titan. Seems kind of ok, you can combo chrono nicely with veno ult and et ult but that teams seriously lacks in physical dmg. Veno can push towers but he has to take time and drop all his wards. Just seemed like they got too cute with the pick and could only take fights when chrono was up.
Overall my observation was correct, void was most picked at 19 picks out of 40 matches. He did ok going 9-10.
Other thing I casually observed was a lot of qop picks. I personally just hate, fucking hate qop, in pubs and pro play. She is so one dimensional. She has mobility and some burst dmg, but she falls off and lack of any disable and most of that burst is aoe means she's shoehorned into a certain role. Compare to lina for example, lina has a lot more single target burst, a disable, no blink but is fast, and can become a monstrous right clicker. Just a far superior hero, so I didn't get why teams were picking qop. I obviously am no pro so maybe there's other reasons, like maybe she wins individual matchup vs puck in this match while lina doesn't I have no idea. I just no I hate qop. https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3351963840
And the numbers backed me up, picked 11 times, tied for fourth most, and went a wretched 3-8. That's awful. I hope teams adjust and just stop picking her.
Only other thing I noticed was it seems drow strats are completely dead, and she went 1-5.
Other interesting takeaways from the stats page, pugna is 5-0 like holy shit. Might be a pocket pick for some teams. Bristle is 4-1, but I think that's maybe expected as a situational pick, he needs to be countered in most drafts I think.
Kunkka and nyx are looking really gaudy at 9-1 and 8-2, part of kunkka is helped by lgd going 4-0 with him and being leader of their group so maybe those rates are inflated. But we'll see how they do later.
A lot always changes for the main event. Shocking how little Io and beastmaster are contested though. Io still banned a lot but only 2 picks and bm 1 pick. He's usually a tournament staple.