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General DiscussionEmber Spirit?

Ember Spirit? in General Discussion
RIP

    Is it a good hero?
    Manta viable defensive item? When to skip Veil?

    and other stuff?

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    meteor hammer

      hes good if ur good and if ur not hes awful

      RIP

        yeah, i know, similar to invoker

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        Pigeon ( °□°) ︵

          Most pros usually skip veil these days, they usually get manta as a defensive item for the physical build(which nobody really does anymore), and euls for the magical build

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          Shou

            u dont ALWAYS skip veil, like i saw sccc get it quite recently
            but u often skip veil and go travels radiance

            Shou

              hes good if ur good and if ur not hes awful

              id say yes, however there r times where the enemy just sucks and u misplay a lot and still shit on them

              Chill

                Manta is a good pickup if you get radiance

                Magnolia

                  Manta good

                  pingwin

                    U can just get lotus or bkb instead

                    CUTNPASTE

                      I've seen most people tend towards straight aquila+travels->radiance over veil maelstrom builds. Still a fine hero if you are a good hero and you can survive the laning phase.

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                      s2

                        manta's p bad most of the time, imo either veil into bots radi or aquila bots mael/radi is decent
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