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    Why most of hi level player (divine++) prefer to go units build (hotd necro) instead of fighting build (armlet deso)..

    Some of my divine friends tell me that its because his 3rd, but isnt his 3rd also increase his dmg. Then if u build more dmg item on HIMself isnt the total dmg about the same with the units build?

    Almost never play that hero, but that hero seems so game winning so i would like to learn that.

    inx

      Because he has 3 spells that make units stronger and the other 1 spell makes units.

      kuci

        Listen to frey on youtube you'll understand

        Nemesis

          Noob opinion: Lycan is not a very strong late game carry compared to most. For that reason I think the belief is to try and play him similar to drow. By 15-20 mins every T1 T2 needs to be gone. It’s just a faster progresssion to go HOTD Necro and allows you to put more pressure on the enemy team. They have to counter a whole army not just one hero. While you’re chasing the hero around the rest of the army is destroying your base.

          Cheesy Wenis

            Armlet + Deso = 3500 + 2380 gold
            ~500 DPS for the duration of Lycan's Shapeshift, this is with armlet activated, 2 wolves slapping the dummy target and Howl activated with a lvl 10 Lycan.

            HoTD + Necrobook1 = 2000 + 2400 gold
            ~630 DPS for the duration of Lycan's Shapeshift, assuming the dominated creep is an Alpha Wolf (+30% damage) with 2 wolves slapping the dummy target, necro demons summoned, and Howl activated on a lvl 10 Lycan.

            Keep in mind the necrobook can be upgraded for more DPS as the game progresses. Armlet and Desolator cannot.

            Edit: Also keep in mind that Lycan's talents benefit the zoo build as he can get more from the aura at lvl 20, as well as more wolves at lvl 25. So the higher level he gets, the more benefits his zoo receives.

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            Cheesy Wenis

              TL/DR version: Armlet and Desolator cost more gold and give you less DPS than a HoTD and Necrobook build. It also does not scale as well into the late game. The only advantage of going Armlet/Deso is that you have less micro to worry about. It's easier to execute, but has far less potential.

              Mode : TOPSON

                why armet deso is fighting build?
                this is better
                https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/4051431055?guide=96807a

                5 (Muted)

                  Always go for domi necro. Lycans CDR talent is just insane in eating everyone alive in midgame

                  Cheesy Wenis

                    https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/4051431055?guide=96807a

                    This is terrible. Get some help.

                    Saya Tidak Takut, Hadapi ...

                      go play turbo twice,
                      1st game, make fighting build, then go fight with your team, (ur wolves arent enough to push towers without your team anyway)

                      2nd game, make HOTD + Necro, fight with team when nescessary, other than that hit towers, rat non stop with your mini army (2 wolves, 1 HotDed enemy ballista, 2 necro creep),

                      see which one works/easier win