He's one of my favorite and most played heroes, I used to spam him mid to climb in 3k around 1-2 years ago, but I don't understand why he's considered op now. It felt a bit underwhelming when I tried him recently, his 1st is still bad for harassing and dealing dmg in lane, the aoe silence is great though. Is he strictly a pos 3 now?
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He's one of my favorite and most played heroes, I used to spam him mid to climb in 3k around 1-2 years ago, but I don't understand why he's considered op now. It felt a bit underwhelming when I tried him recently, his 1st is still bad for harassing and dealing dmg in lane, the aoe silence is great though. Is he strictly a pos 3 now?
Did you tried it during the night? Did you tried building medalion on him and see how stupid it is? DO you even dota bro?
^I Dota but I don't Nightstalker anymore apparently lol
Nope I went for vessel, halberd and AC. I'll look for some recent guide, would be cool if he was viable as pos 1 too, at least in some situations, tanky af with the talents and going for full dmg instead of utility.
He aint carry he is pos4 as he used to be, only now he is playable, every 5 minutes or every ult you rotate on some lane and something will die.
He's solidly a 3 position hero. He's really bad as a 4. You need levels at basically all stages of the game to be effective. Having level 4 by 5 minutes is key to his success and makes or breaks his first night time. As a 4 you need to roam or make room for your offlaner to get last hits, and he just doesn't do that. With the nerf to day time damage on void, you really can't harass enemy supports or carries and buffer the lane. He needs someone to do that for him so he can get last hits and be comfortable during the first day time.
@Feachairu
Phase, Spirit Vessel, then situational. Basically all of my games have been different. I've gone halberd a number of games, basher, vlads, solar crest, AC, Crimson Guard, Pipe, etc.
Really depends on the game. If you have high damage elsewhere in your team, I'd go tanky and get crimson/pipe. If you need to push an early lead and have a lot of physical damage dealers, go vlads. If the other team lacks lockdown and you need to hit their backline, like killing a skywrath or sniper or something, go basher or solar crest.
In lane you basically play like a beastmaster. Nightstalker's base stats are pretty nutty, so he's hard to kill, does lots of damage, and has good regen to deal with harass. As long as you have a support that can do basically anything, you'll be fine until night time.
Only thing I'd be wary of is solo offlaning, or fighting aggressively into a trilane. He's not a good fighter at early levels, he's just a beefstick that most heroes can't kill until they get a few levels, by which point you should be hitting your first night.
this hero is stupid as off lane once the game reaches min 5 its like impossible to beat. then he can use his op ult once in the night then another time in the morning. also he can trade hits with any melee hero apart from undying/ursa/lifestealer pre 5 mins at runes its stupid because he slows attack speed mainly. and at night he kites u and attacks sooo fast. also the ganks on to your mid is always there
Nightstalker is broken as 3, tho in good hands he can be played in any pos 1-4 (at least in theory)
He's really bad as a 4
Why? He does retarded amount of damage with his ult alone, he doesnt need a single damage item, with medalion he can delete anything in 5 seconds. I mean yeah you are useless firt 5 minutes, but nothing really happens on the map in that time either.
Pair him up with Tiny for some serios "xD" stuff!
you all playing him bad a vessel ns deals more dps than a solar crest and it's much cheaper
also have you all even tried dagger??? it's good
edit: what basher?? you dont get that shit it's either bkb or nullifier
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I just coached my 3k friend on my other smurf into the ways of Nightstalker hero is OP, how is he doing lads?
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