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General DiscussionHeroes that have it all

Heroes that have it all in General Discussion
Soggy Bottom Boy

    Good laning, stays relevant late game, but can fight early, gank potential, decent teamfight, waveclear, can take objectives etc. The complete package.

    Shadow Shaman comes to my mind, he seems to have it all.

    Who else?

    klit0r

      MARS THE IMPALER!!!!!!!!!!1

      also magnus, beastmaster and kunkka.

      But Mars is really the best at everything

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      Tribo

        Bane, NP, IO, Mars, lesh etc

        Lruce Bee

          Jugg comes to mind as the carry that kinda does everything.

          dont be thrilled by this ...

            adding:

            weaver, lina

            varjager

              Jugg comes to mind as the carry that kinda does everything.

              I pick up jugger as carry if there is a farm heavy pick for mid. I actually play jugger better when i can play him as a second carry, i like the phase drums build.

              Rambo Zambo

                Drow Ranger.

                ETd

                  Tinker maybe?

                  Ignikus

                    Clockwerk? Not that good at waveclearing instantly, but can significantly weaken the creeps early, which makes him good for early game agressive plays? Although he may not deal insane damage by the late game, he can turn battles by picking off the enemy carries, and live to tell the tale.

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                      Crystal Maiden
                      Crystal Nova - although it can't 1 shot a wave but with a few hits you could clear it (good for team fights burst damage with slow, low cd)
                      Frostbite - can jungle if your carry is doing fine in lane (good for team fights, low cd)
                      Arcane Aura - Global clarity saves you 50 gold
                      Freezing Field - good damage, slows ms and as (definitely good for team fights you could use it as initiate to bait enemy disables)
                      lvl 10 talent +100 cast range 10/10
                      lvl 15 150 gpm makes you rich
                      lvl 20 talent +60 Freezing Field damage or +250 attack speed is just good but the latter is better could push and melt enemies even only having 1 damage item
                      lvl 25 talent hmm i doubt you could long game with CM
                      (but you need 10 and 20 minute tomes for it)

                      P.S Shadow Shaman performs better at level 6 wand, arcane into aether lense and tranquil boots and glimmer or force staff is enough to win the game

                      KiLLiNg._.MaCHinE

                        U seem to miss one point . To have it ALL . U must also have good mobility , which ss clearly lacks .

                        The only hero who has it ALL , is cent and np plus a few cheezy heroes .

                        '96 Neve Campbell

                          Nobody gonna mention PA? Stronger than most carries from the start, has good mobility and requires only around 4000 gold to be the strongest hero on the map. Doesnt drop off with a good build and has good waveclear and damage for objectives. Not saying you should pick PA but it does basically everything. I would also raise Shadow Fiend, Drow, Lina and Prophet as heros which can do everything

                          CNP

                            PA is like a melee creep in lane, really easy to abuse especially with current meta offlanes like bh/enigma/mars/doom who PA is useless against.

                            varjager

                              Clockwerk?

                              He cant farm, he needs to be ahead, there are many cores that handle him in lane, small mana pool.
                              Buff cogs to drain more mana and give him gpm talent then i will play him again.

                              cartel

                                spectre

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                                  Naga.

                                  Customizerin

                                    If anything it would probably be morphling.

                                    And rubick

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                                      invoker

                                      xD

                                        invoker indeed..wave clear,lockdown,nuke,early game late game..sunstrike,mobility,disarm,dispel..etc

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                                        Héḱmō

                                          shadow shaman

                                          varjager

                                            And rubick

                                            Not the rubick in 3k. but in divine im sure its a good pick.

                                            Androgynous

                                              doom
                                              good in lane, waveclear with scorched earth, can always find farm. maybe a bit lacking in tower push but a basi / vlads and an alpha wolf or hellbear aura can help, plus devour hp regen to tank tower.

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                                                Rubick sucks at laning stage as pos 5 if mid then it's good

                                                Rocket

                                                  Ck

                                                  Khalilov

                                                    Stop thinking mars is op fool. He on the spot of meta because other str offlane heroes were weak af (except earthshaker). Now u can spot agi heroes on offlane (viper, razor, pango, mk, nyx) and got better result rather than str offlane

                                                    ywn

                                                      Invoker is trash laner and early game lol

                                                      skill issue

                                                        morphling

                                                        shady_stuff

                                                          id say prophet
                                                          he can gank
                                                          strong af laner
                                                          he can take objectives
                                                          has minor cc with sprout
                                                          great split pusher
                                                          can be played in any position

                                                          A̶𝖘𝖍𝖊𝖘 (My Chat is

                                                            Gambit.

                                                            Power : Spells unknown literally and mysterious chap.

                                                            Jack__Attack

                                                              Enigma.

                                                              par73 KB24 | GTUBE

                                                                Mars, Naga, Eldar Titan

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                                                                Peace

                                                                  THE ONLY HERO IT IS INVOKER

                                                                  Lruce Bee

                                                                    All rounded carry must be
                                                                    Good laner
                                                                    Able to have solo kill potential on people
                                                                    Able to teamfight well preferably with aoe
                                                                    Able to farm well
                                                                    Able to split push well
                                                                    Able to push towers fast

                                                                    Let’s see. Jugg is a good laner with spin and a lot of kill potential with a plus one or even alone. With omni you have tons of solo kill potential and also teamfight. Healing ward is great for team fights. It’s also great for pushes. Jugg farms fast as well even without bf. he can split push well with spin tp.

                                                                    Very well rounded carry. Let’s see some other carries mentioned

                                                                    Spec: shit laner. Great team fighter but cd dependent. Not very great at pushing. Slow farmer. Almost 0 solo kill potential without ult and a big item.
                                                                    Pa: completely garbage laner. Other than that she’s great. Doesn’t really offer teamfight. She’s just damage killing machine so kinda snowbally dependent.

                                                                    Other well rounded carries: luna. But not Super great at split pushing by yourself. Lifestealer has a bit of a slow start. Slow farm without Midas or radiance. Don’t really have that great solo kill potential. Needs something like deso ac to push well. Lacking aoe aside from infest. Very single target.

                                                                    Troll is alright, aside from the fact his ult is so garbage. Don’t really offer much in team fights anymore.

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                                                                    A Wild Pikachu Has Appeared!

                                                                      troll is garbage lmao, look at your rank, the changes for troll were so good for the hero :)

                                                                      Lruce Bee

                                                                        It’s garbage ult. I hate it.

                                                                        CarlCuba

                                                                          Brewmaster - plays every lane, waveclear, teamfight, ganker, escape, dispel, slow, stun, burn, burst, Towerpush, teamfight, durable.. Etc etc

                                                                          Spírít

                                                                            Monkey King. Strong from level 1, good roamer, has good waveclear and can build maelstrom for even better farming. Can play all 3 lanes so its a great flex pick early in a draft. He can scale OKAY into late game but obviously not as hard as a real hard carry. Usually MK will like to win his lane and quickly move to another lane to start snowballing and always forcing fights with his ult so the enemy team cannot get the chance to outfarm and out scale him.