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General DiscussionBasher should have no effect for Troll Warlord

Basher should have no effect for Troll Warlord in General Discussion
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    This item should be banned for troll or should not have any effect. Troll gets to have parmabash if he gets this item.
    Rushing Bash and then Abyssal is a broken build on Troll I hate it.

    Please ban it valve.

    Kabir singh's bo0ster

      In non crusader land we buy halberds, euls, force, ghost scepters, and drafts generally consist of a lot of stuns and nukes. Troll is okay, but he needs a lot to not get fucked in most games.

      9o_o6

        It did have effect before when it stunned. But it is ok if it is root.

        You can still attack use spells and spin in a circle under root

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        Oldman

          Basher is far from broken. And Abysal is super expensive. Net does not pierce bkb so he needs basher. Any item mentioned by Kabir do the job or just pick Oracle. He has disarm, ultimate to save and disable.

          Also Troll is not that much countered by enemy cores but decent support plays and items.

          Besides Troll counter elusive heros like Void or Antimage. If you want to win, you have to think outside of the box. Recently I played vs AM smurf and he rushed Eblade against me. I couldnt kill him and we lacked lockdown so I was the only one to do it.

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          Omnislash по венам

            Troll with Abyssal (6625 gold) + bkb (4050) + s&a (4100) and pt/phase boots (1400) : i'm gonna destroy you
            Me as crystal maiden with 3k networth: haha ghost\glimir go pshh pshh

            Meganesta

              is diffusal viable for troll? for general use

              mineMime

                Shall i remind you that he had a passive bash from his 1st ability? Which then get removed because of people like you? Just because you're a bad player, doesnt mean abyssal is broken on troll. And im not trying to be rude, im bad at fortnite and pubg on pc, so i dont play them, tho i like them. You know, like in that movie, you either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become a vilain. Same here, you either abandon the game, or get better at it by using your brain. Im telling you this, as someone who was playing at 2600 mmr. And now on 5k. If u cant do smth, the problem comes from you.

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                ETd

                  Eul’s and ghost scepter exists

                  Pale Mannie

                    passive bash was perfectly fine

                    Meganesta

                      Its not with new fervor, and talent shit

                      Oldman

                        There are many viable builds on Troll, but since BF is so cheap you usually go for it. Maelstrom vs axe and Dk since they have a lot of armor.

                        Drums, diffu can be viable but Ive seen pros doing yasha basher for early domination and ez rosh.

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                        '96 Neve Campbell

                          The only item which needs a nerf at the moment is battle fury

                          Gazz   ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

                            ..and silver edge

                            Shou

                              euls, ghost scepter, glimmer, force, halberd, hex, eblade, aeon disc, hurricane pike, even linken to stop the jump, sny + satanic on cores to resist out of the bash, etc etc.

                              arbuz

                                no this hero will be unplayable

                                Shou

                                  im p sure troll is bad rn, but if you play him you might as well do some drums yasha basher bkb build or smth idk, look up on dota2protracker or smth

                                  '96 Neve Campbell

                                    im p sure troll is bad rn

                                    Kinda agreed tbh, the hero feels strong if you get the right farm timings but I feel as if there are carries which can do so much more more with way less farm. The only time this hero feels potent is if you build a basher yet OP would have Valve nerf basher on troll?

                                    Shou

                                      s tier carries are like, spectre, tb, am, void, maybe drow and mag can be sort of lumped in there even though they play mid a lot, but theyre farming right click cores.

                                      with new patch tho it might be different

                                      Oldman

                                        Its not S tier but has very reliable laning stage even vs difficult match ups.

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                                        Black Pikachu

                                          Euls cyclone isnt affected by status resist, try to build euls and halberds against him to kite him

                                          Or pick pugna lol

                                          RedRuby

                                            Troll is the definition of a win more hero. If his team is winning he makes them win harder and if his team is losing he is a fucking creep