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General DiscussionAxe with a Manta as a Second item

Axe with a Manta as a Second item in General Discussion
Elucidator VSK

    So Guys do share your opinion on this topic here:
    I played a game as a pos 4 jak and met an axe rushing a manta as his second item after phase.
    he refuses to believe that blink or blademail would have been better items and continues to state that this is the new meta.
    So do lemme know is this actually a thing or is this just plain stupid because I have seen pros build manta on axe, but never as a second item.
    Match id: 5597430517
    so you guys can analyze yourself.

    kowareta

      plain stupid is arguing with legend players

      Mash

        It really depends on the team lineup, if an extra hitter is needed axe can go manta, but on top of that, counter helix works on axe illusions so it can speed up farm for him, however in that match an extra hitter is not needed and it would've been better if he went blink + blademail.

        So all in all, it's not a bad idea, but maybe not this match ._.

        Bambooni

          there's a talent where axe 3rd spill procs even when you attack so high attack speed means higher chance of procs also correct me if im wrong is manta illusion's works 3rd spell on axe?

          Oldman

            Helix works on illusions y.

            '96 Neve Campbell

              Who cares if helix works on illusions. The damage is lacking compared to blade ma return, u would honestly be better off building a shivas and then using the blast active cause that probably gives more damage

              Oldman

                Maybe he played terroblade too much and just split farm with illusions. Or used it to dispel something for 5k gold.

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                miiigz

                  Meteor hammer > Manta on axe.

                  zarse

                    Haha what the fuck.
                    But honestly yes, even meteor hammer is more viable with a dagger

                    I do give him props for just fucking around and trying stuff out, Manta could be good as a 4th item on axe, or with battlefury turbo builds
                    edit: by the by, the Attacking procs Helix talent also works with illusions, so the output could be great if you jump in call Manta

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                    Androgynous

                      the topic is about manta specifically second item, though in OPs game axe went manta first major item, not even blink. boots are a given on almost every hero so no one counts it as your "first" item.

                      even with the attack speed talent you'd probably only get one proc off each illusion in a call. for 5k gold thats pretty bad.

                      it could be situationally viable if your team lacked damage and you itemised for it, but you would still want core items before you transition to carry axe. literally every axe game in the guides page has gone blink + blade mail and for good reason.

                      Shou

                        theres a meme build where u take attacking procs helix and build manta, but its not good.