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General Discussioncounters to phoenix and ember spirit and tb

counters to phoenix and ember spirit and tb in General Discussion
daggius

    these annoying heroes are in every game

    what can i do to counter them

    frostychee

      captain's draft

      i left her

        You beat cancer with cancer, countering tb=ember
        or just dooooooooooooooom

        Dire Wolf

          Counter push tb, or gank the crap out of him to keep him underfarmed. Ember is pretty squishy early if you gank him, most embers are glass cannons.

          Ted

            kill them

            Androgynous

              ember is weak to silences, so is phoenix. you could try orchid carriers like slark, or clinkz, who also have craptons of physical damage, and both ember + phoenix have shit starting armour and agi gain

              silencer is good against phoenix, because phoenix will get silenced after casting anything but supernova if last worded. if it casts dive, it wont be able to cast the cancel dive ability, if it casts fire spirits, it can't throw them, idk about sun ray, i suppose you cant move forward? so you can try and force the phoenix to use supernova defensively and then just back off.

              not so sure on how to hard-counter terrorblade, i mean everyone says chain disables or 5 man ganks, but that applies to everyone.

              edit: ursa or troll warlord are pretty good for destroying phoenix's egg form, i don't know about picking them only for the egg though, since you'll probably create other problems due to picking ursa / troll

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                Dark Seer makes TB cry.

                Jʌy Δshʙoʁnɘ

                  Bambi can enchant TB illusions. Lol'ed.

                  King of Low Prio

                    do a aggro tri against the terrorblade

                    Neme

                      Ask bogi for tb, he will say what heroes rapes his tb. Oh yea, that is right, everyone.

                      On topic. Silence fuck up ember and pheonix ( sky is very good vs them, as long you have good map awareness )

                      Strongmind

                        ^ LMAO

                        Miku Plays

                          LC with bm

                          Strongmind

                            Best Tb counters in my opinion: Void,Axe,Lc,Riki,sand king,dark seer, rhasta prophet anti-rats Invoker also etc.

                            frostychee

                              Lion is pretty good. Mana drain can kill an illusion in 1 second every 5 seconds. Hex insta kills it, and he has the lockdown to prevent the sunder. Finger can be used before sunder as well.

                              Miku Plays

                                ^ lion is too soft for TB

                                Nemesis

                                  Dark Seer, Sand King, and AA are excellent counters to TB

                                  Nemesis

                                    why is avidity-sama a phoenix picker now? did u get sick of picking tree

                                    game is bad

                                      Silencer is good versus Phoenix and can help against Ember late game.

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                                        I made a deal with the devil.

                                        Nemesis

                                          i just fed really hard in my most recent game with phoenix on my alt, do you have any advice (besides committing suicide)

                                          Nemesis

                                            i just noticed u don't build mek on that hero either o.O

                                            crimsonSoldier

                                              necrolyte destroys tb

                                              Jing

                                                http://dotabuff.com/matches/624427020
                                                easiest ember counter vs insta picked tb and naga of my life

                                                won a team fight and throned, dont extend to late game when naga and tb are maxed, then its ez game

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                                                  As a filthy terrorblade picker, I'd say the only thing that stops him is repeated ganks and effort to shut him down early game.

                                                  Dotabuff prohibits Freedom

                                                    silencer counters phoenix

                                                    stuns/early orchid counter tb

                                                    silence/orchid counters ember