General DiscussionPA Players were dumb

Why DON'T YOU try PA without BF but with deso instead? Because I tried PA with BF and it doesn't feel useful

I can't deso coz too hard

Battlefury is wasted on PA as it can't augment her chasing ability as well as Desolator for which PA is played for, Armor Reduction allows for insane crits, Medallion-Solar Crest is so underused and underrated on PA.

Satanic on PA without bkb is useless as the lifesteal is wasted when you are being stunlocked and it's expensive, you may be successful for it as the enemy teams you are playing against don't coordinate well with stuns, so watch out.

I report any PA who buy battlefury

pa's skillset is made for fighting early>midgame

wasting her on afk farming is the best way to lose mmr

PA 6 slot + rapira is one of the best late game carry she can beat spectre too i saw alot of reply when PA kick every other carrys in lategame

i dont think a 6 slotted pa can beat a 6 slotted spectre lol

Honestly PA is by far not the best lategame carry, She doesnt farm as good as others like AM and spectre with radiance unless you build BF. And waisting her early game potential with buying BF just seems so dumb.

^PA powerspike is earlier than Spectre . Why wait for 6 slot?

one of the best late game carry

@cru
"in lategame"

ah, the age old story of the trench

I can spam PA out of 2k easily if I want to but where's the swag man

Nice 1k mmr

PA bf is the way to go. Don't listen to these scrubs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXoe20q3u5o pigeon u should see this

and bf on pa is really good i saw alot of pros build bf on pa but deso build is also good

I said "why not try" u fucking dick

and bf on pa is really good i saw alot of pros build bf on pa

link of a serious game not some cheesey stomp? legit interested to see under what circumstances would pros think its legit to get bfury on pa. pls dont link anything not from 7.00 era

just try build bf then rush satanic

i used power boots for better attack speed for this hero

power boots and phase treads

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https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3125282396

i swear people started building crest on pos 1 carries after miracle on juggernaut did

Rights? Need 20min vlads and 30min for deso

bf's faster than deso
just need 17m

im not a good pa player by any means but this is how average deso-vlads builds go in 2k

https://www.dotabuff.com/players/287739166/matches?hero=phantom-assassin

(ignore bfury rush, yes i won but i finished with retardedly low kda, and that was when i was 1k before i discovered dotabuff)

edit: ignore echo sabre item pickup as well. a friend told me i couldnt win with pa echo sabre and i was doing it out of habit and to show my friend anything can work

I'm certain if you aren't abusing your early power-spike as PA around level 12 you are playing the hero wrong. BF is just pure trash, the hero is ass when it's 6 slotted anyway.

OP is stuck in 2013

bf is faster than deso but takes 11-15 min, not 17

"PA 6 slot + rapira is one of the best late game carry she can beat spectre too i saw alot of reply when PA kick every other carrys in lategame"

ima introduce you to an item i call blademail...

The ammount of autism in this tread is insane

bf is faster than deso but takes 11-15 min, not 17

wish i played against you once with pa on either of us
but you'd have to be out of low prio for that :^)

the one who's said 15m bf is a kid

Gl on your 15min bf when all of your outer tower dead by tb. And tb already had manta

hello i am here to tell you that armor reduction and magical immunity and bash are much more useful on pa than lifesteal and cleave

armor reduction and magical immunity and bash are much more useful on pa than lifesteal and cleave

Hey benao. Care to share with us what you're thinking again? Will you throw if the enemy pa didn't go battle fury? How do u protect your ego from being hurt here? What do you tell yourself to sleep at night?

I want to know what does delusion sound like in your head

something like "blink on enigma is useless in certain games"

Did i hear someone say PA is better than Spectre lategame? PA's power spike is midgame and yet even in midgame:
Spectre+Manta > PA+Deso+Vlad (I have done the coincidental 1v1 in jungle and it wasnt even a close fight). add MKB to the equation and see what happens.

Bfury on PA makes sense for me. happens alot during teamfights when enemies are clustered in one point and a critical or two is enough to turn the fight around. but I play normal skill so maybe I'm seeing the wrong examples.

if we look at pa in a vaccum bf is not a bad item on the hero. It's just not the best item. You can still fight with bf because it provides similar damage to deso and it provides decent regen. Hitting buildings will take longer but you clear waves much faster. All in all bf on pa is not game losing, deso just comes online earlier and is more fighting centered. Basically deso and bf actually provide something similar in fighting ability deso just gives it to you earlier and is a little better for fighting. If your facing and illusion hero or your team has no wave clear it might be better to go bf.

basically what im saying is bf is situational.

I said, "why not try" u idiot

Why would anyone ever rush a Satanic? Especially when they have nothing but a farming item like BF.

their all dumb as fuck. like I told this noob lion and noob pa to defend all they do is stand there and the enemy is inside their base trying to defend and the creeps pushed than the enemy team and won. Seriously I'm gonna fucking murder valve for not fixing their system.

P.A ez I go rush divine ;)

ughh...

yeah divine rapier can do 2.8k dmg when your lvl 18.

i have put on a shamefur dispray so