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General DiscussionSoulring on Storm

Soulring on Storm in General Discussion
Peekaboo

    Yo, is this shit legit? i see envy do it as Core on him like without fail.
    It seems decent, but 800 gold for 150 mana, you can get like a pointbooster for not soh much more.

    Player 103543943

      Been wondering that myself, to me it seems to be shit because its still not enough mana. Perhaps it would work with a different build other than rushing orchid?

      waku waku

        he's fucking squishy i don't see any decent use for it other than an escape uphill when out of mana

        Luxon

          probably effectively increasing mana pool without increasing cost of lightning ball.

          harvard graduate

            Ehm I dont know but if you use it in your ulti-form you should not take the damage from the soulring and the percentage mana cost is calculated before you use it so the extra mana should bring you a lot further.
            Never tested if though

            jess the goat

              no, not worth it.

              imbaPower

                If you lack that much about mana, go arcane which will lead to bloodstone later.It really gives storm enough mana and hp.And yes i think his primary damage comes from his skills not stats (my opinion).

                Sayzee

                  He is like 800 hp, making him 650 hp is bad I think, more mana, more squishy too.
                  And later on the 150 mana won't have a difference, like when lvl 11 or above ur ulti takes much more mana.

                  Relentless

                    If you are fast enough to use while invulnerable its great. If not its bad. Storm has the potential to do everything while invincible, but its hard to actually do it. Soul lets you extend to take even riskier, harder fights sooner with less farm. It lets you push the limits.

                    I can see why it would appeal to EE. But overall I think its probably a bad idea for most players.

                    You can do pretty much whatever you want with storm. But if you don't play aggressively you don't win. Build and play aggressively on storm. Take risks.

                    http://dotabuff.com/players/103176226/matches?hero=storm-spirit&game_mode=&match_type=real

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                    Peekaboo

                      So basically, use it in ball and you wont lose hp.
                      Seems pretty legit to me.

                      matrice

                        it's not damage, it's removal hp, even if invulnerable (so in ult) you lose the life

                        Yellow

                          i might try it later...

                          "it's not damage, it's removal hp, even if invulnerable (so in ult) you lose the life"

                          that would be sad xd

                          You can do pretty much whatever you want with storm. But if you don't play aggressively you don't win. Build and play aggressively on storm. Take risks.

                          this... i played with lothars, mjjlor, stats only , remnant max first , vortex first, no vortex at all... everything is funny :D

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                          Vaikiss`742.

                            i prefer to get my orchid or bloodstone earlier so i would rather not go soulring

                            but if ur reallt desperaqte for that early mana to get into fights go for it

                            Sayzee

                              I am 100% sure u would lose hp if u use soul ring while in lightning bolt form.
                              It would help a lot early game as I said.
                              That is from minute 5-10 maybe, later it doesn't do much as the 150 extra mana would let u go further maybe an uphill distance.
                              And it delays ur core items (orchid/bloodstone/bkb/etc).

                              mwsqz

                                it was doable with last patch tranquil boots, now its shit

                                vivivvivivi

                                  "You can do pretty much whatever you want with storm. But if you don't play aggressively you don't win. Build and play aggressively on storm. Take risks."

                                  anyone with 2000 mmr can do anything you fucking retard, i could pick furion and rush dagon, eblade and refresher orb and kill the opposite team with ease because of the low skill in 2000 mmr range

                                  stfu plz

                                  Yoichi Isagi | Blue Lock

                                    soul ring is pretty cheap and good if you can't bottle that's about it. And you're fighting good pubs and been letting them escape with low HP etc...
                                    I would just save for bloodstone and arcane and orchid more. Cuz once you get decent item that items gonna be sold. The only viable hero I can see with soul ring is sven & tiny and maybe WK for that stun/ult mana requirements.

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                                    LL Poroksi

                                      @Broodmother, DS, Enigma, Tinker??

                                      sano

                                        I've tried it and didn't like it. Besides, the only player I see making it is Envy.

                                        King of Low Prio

                                          and EE isnt really a mid player which is where storm is played

                                          Hopeless

                                            When EE does something wonky or strange, there is usually a very good reason for it, and the decision is based on a game plan and teamwork with an exceptionally good team.

                                            replicate in pub matches at your own risk.

                                            King of Low Prio

                                              I am sure he has a reason why he THINKS it is good but there is a reason why the top mid players do not get it.

                                              Heathen

                                                He usually safelanes Storm, so maybe it's a way to compensate for not getting to bottle up runes?

                                                Peekaboo

                                                  Seems like Core against a Nyx or any other manaburns, like it saved my arse so many times last game. +1 would recommend it.

                                                  Yoichi Isagi | Blue Lock

                                                    ^no MP? use soul ring.. oh hi AM!

                                                    mwsqz

                                                      i alrdy said the answer, dunno why all still debating.

                                                      Quick maffs

                                                        Probably for farming, anyway it works for him so whatever.