A hero with 10 spells(13 if you count elements) can't be balanced. I hope one day i won't see him in dota together with lycan.
EMP needs to be deleted from dota. mana burn is annoying enough but tornado > emp is unavoidable and hits your entire team
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EMP is too strong, but you overstated it a bit. Leap can avoid EMP, positioning can avoid it too, same for BKB, rage, blade fury, etc.
You press two buttons -> they have no mana + you have full mana. My biggest problem with it though is the fact that it's so easy to do; surely there should be at least some skill involved.
^^^That's like saying you could not get hit by Mirana arrow or Pudge hook ... it's easy to say but it still happens....
Bogi, there are many things you can do. W/Q Invoker is OP, but he still has many weaknesses. If winning is all you want against w/q Invoker, then you can just go Lycan. Lycan does not care much for nado, emp, snap.
^ think she will be typing for the next several months lol.
Ice Frog never buff/nerf heroes before internationals
http://dotabuff.com/matches/618512837
you see you must not put a zeus aginst an invoker middle and he wont be OP. otherwise, this is what will happen. gank the invoker early and make he think tweice about getting an early midas ( i got mine around 5 min in this game. has sb charged me and ganked once, i would not have gone midas) midas does make invoker excel and this is my tip to prevent him from being "op"
@Ryuk
W/E Invoker, Leshrac spending levels in stats instead of lightning, Lifestealer taking Rage at 11...
This game was not about Invoker vs Zeus, but bad vs worse.
http://dotabuff.com/matches/308351162
Yeah, 900 XPM on Dazzle should not happen when you play your first DOTA game ever...
QW invoker is definitely too stronk. And don't say hurr durr learn 2 counter pls nab - well no shit of course every hero has a fucking counter, doesn't mean it's balanced. winning with qw is almost too ez.
Felt like i need some more rating on my Solo MMR since my newb friends are catching up, so i started to increase it.
EVERY. F*CKIN. GAME. I N V O K E R s !
I loved when Vaikiss played it with us, or any other friend who actually can use it. But lets face it, most players on this semi-noob bracket where i am, just pick it cause its trendy. As i said it's terribly good hero, but terribly hard to master it. Or least it needs a bit more practice than other heroes do. Currently its autopicked right after loading in, and seen very various ways to failvoking.
-0 skills used, only max Exort and auto attack the sh*t out of the enemy, or at least try it
-farm mid with maxing exort yet not even sunstriking anybody but who comes to gank him
-pick 2 skills which you can use nicely but lets just dont use any other (oldschool coldsnap+exort players), become useless in fights including more than 1 enemy
-people who are seem like having their skills binded cuz using as many as they can but still missing with every single one
Damn i love to play versus Invoker.
^ no one's hatin on voker. its the best hero (concept wise) out there. I play voker too but i still think 6.80 qw voker is way too strong. It's way too easy.
Playing against an Invoker requires exceptional map awareness and positioning to avoid his nonsense. Understandably it is frustrating to get knocked around by what is a bullshit combo but taking a number of heroes into account if you get caught in their shit you probably were out of position and deserved to die.
Note: Walk towards the invoker if you get caught right in the combo, as the tornado will let you down quicker the closer you are to invoker which means the emp won't hit (due to always casting where you're going to run) which means you have like 1-2 second before the coldsnap starts but you will have the mana and the HP's to hopefully get away
doom, clinkz with orchid, storm with orchid, buttsyka (bs), death prophet, and nyx assasin counters invoker fairly easily if u get that farm. Plus.. just like what people said ... black king bar destroys :P
Who counters invoker... Hmm.... Nyx, omni, anyone with bkb as core, anyone with a silence, anyone with a force staff, anyone with common sence. Anyone with wards and communication
Heros don't win games, the players do
As a frequent Voker player I can say that good Abaddon, Omni or OD can make your day pretty shitty rather quick.
Nyx you prioritize Quas and build Atos or something.
LC is not a problem, if you dont get jumped.
Doom is annoying but managable.
Silencer, if you get quick BKB, it is not an issue.
Ember same as LC.
Huskar also not really a problem. Preferably get hex.
... the Abaddon, Omni or OD are the trouble because they fuckup the effectivness of your spells, if they are on their game, your are a bigger creep with mediocre autoattack power.
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Need nerf so fucking much , hero is ridicilous. Probably most op hero right now together with Terrorblade