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General Discussion5 Fastest farming heroes

5 Fastest farming heroes in General Discussion
GENGHIS KHAN

    So what you think who are fastest farming hereos in game, for me its definately:
    1. Nature Prophet (teleport + ulti, and this prove that Furion is fastest farmer in dota 2 - http://dotabuff.com/heroes/economy?date= )
    2. Alchemist (goblin greed)
    3. Doom (devour)
    4. Sven (cleave + mom and he farm realy fast)
    5. Medusa (split shot)

    Metallicize

      What about meepo, luna and helicopter????

      GENGHIS KHAN

        Sunrise- Well they farm fast too but they are no match for this top 5 in farm speed.

        kanye went to uni

          Naga....

          zhibelongto

            Uhmm

            Nature - maybe, nothing especial

            Doom - yes

            Alche - yes

            Sven - depends. Stacking ancients is way to go

            Medusa - OH please, not before 20, 25 minute. She simply don't have enough damage at that early stage

            Luna and Gyro - is way faster

            You forgot the fastest farmer in dota 2

            SF

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            Hafla Enjoyer

              where is luna

              Noé

                Uhm, anti mage farms faster than sven.

                GENGHIS KHAN

                  Well this is my list.
                  Alex- I dont think so, am can farm fast too but sven with inbuild cleave and mom farm pretty faster and am must first buy bf what sven already have in better version. And am blink work same as mom for movement bonus speed overall.
                  whb.CKK- SF farm also fast, but definately not fastest in game and Gyro dont fast farm becouse his only farming ability (flak cannon) have big CD.

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                  salt enjoyer

                    1. Wrong. If you're safe laning prophet then sure, but jungle prophet tends to be slower than a safe lane or mid lane farmer.
                    2. Decently accurate as with goblins greed you're able to accelerate farm much faster than most, but this is assuming you have no one to contest your farm.
                    3. Agree slightly as even when shut down doom is able to get gold (not last hits) at an acceptable pace due to the devour giving extra gold which increases per level.
                    4. Sven is a good farmer but no where near the fastest, if you're cleaving a wave you will push it quicker up the lane meaning you will be hitting very close to the enemy tower.
                    5. Medusa with split shot unless you're farming ancients isn't going to do anything bar pushing the wave all the way back to their tower.

                    These are assumptions based on difference in skill, hero level, and period in the game. With NP you can go from like 40 last hits in 10 minutes to about 300+ in a 40 minute game, tinker can also do this due to split pushing and jungling/ancient farming. Some of these are based of last hitting ability and being almost completely uncontested in lane sven is a rough laner and you will need decent support to help secure your farm if you're up against a troublesome offlane.

                    EDIT: Luna is amazing at farming, shadow fiend is rapid as well, Axe too is probably the fastest flash farmer if you were inclined to do so but that is all early game....depends on the hero, the support you get, and the situation.

                    Sven at 15 minutes will farm just as fast as an AM at 15 a Medusa level 3 will farm slower than an Invoker (exort) level 3 etc. Some of these may be bad comparisons but you get the picture, there is no fastest farmer really as some will accelerate faster based on how they did in the laning/farming stage and how much they were contested.

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                    GENGHIS KHAN

                      Havoc Badger <3 Hald Traas- Just buy soul ring so you can spam trees in jungle than you will see how prophet farm fast even in jungle. And i dont mean how they farm fast in laning phase, i mean how fast they farm overal overall in game, what mean from start early game to late game end. And when game reach 25 minute rank than medusa start farm insanely fast.

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                      zhibelongto

                        WUT?

                        salt enjoyer

                          Again that requires farm in the first place and is 800 gold and is just an item to give you more farm which you will probably sell about 15 minutes into the game in favor of other items.

                          By the end of the game how fast a hero can farm doesn't really matter as it boils down to players etc....

                          Alch vs NS http://dotabuff.com/matches/762403932 same last hits in a 35 minute (roughly) duration game, also http://dotabuff.com/matches/762444105 I had about 30 last hits till about 8-9 minutes but then was the highest farmer. It depends what you do and how you play and some heroes get more farm later than earlier.

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                          Arek Akashi

                            Tb , Naga , Pl

                            GENGHIS KHAN

                              Havoc Badger <3 Hald Traas- Just buy regen ring and recipe imedeately from 625 gold and you need only 175 gold more to buy soul ring so its not expensive and its much better than stupid ring of basilus on furion.

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                              Noé

                                Imo, it's 1 - Alchemist (cuz of greevils greed ofc, but farm isn't guaranteed)
                                2 - Naga
                                3- AM
                                4- natures profit
                                5 - doom (aside from devour he has nothing to help him farm)

                                Metallicize

                                  BTW terrorblade can farm extremely fast.

                                  Twitch.tv/Pay2lose

                                    Barely anyone has mentioned meepo, naga, pl and am...

                                    GENGHIS KHAN

                                      Alex- You mean naga radiance? I dont think so that naga can farm fast, coz if its true fast farmer than why pros playing her sometimes as support and ignore her flash farm ability, and in this case i think that spectre is fastest radiance farmer in game coz haunt.

                                      GENGHIS KHAN

                                        Sunrise- Problem with TB is that he is mostly ranged hero and ranged hero cant buy battlefury what very much speed up their farming, that why is Sven one of the fastest heroes in game due CLEAVE.

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                                        salt enjoyer

                                          Wraith king is better than spectre at farming radiance, you can get midas, boots, and radiance in under 20 minutes....he is a much better farmer cause he is durable and has lifesteal so he can duck into the jungle to pick up jungle farm a lot faster than others.

                                          http://dotabuff.com/matches/726877584

                                          Again this topic doesn't make much sense as you're theory crafting heroes against others based on different timelines and difficulty of laning.

                                          Also dat comment on TB? TB is one of the fastest farmer in game bar non....you can be laning and have illusions clearing jungle and other lanes. Lets take matrice or zenoth who play TB regularly, they will confirm how slow TB is at farmin......right?

                                          http://dotabuff.com/matches/762267824 < Matrice
                                          http://dotabuff.com/matches/757802233 < Zenoth

                                          and those aren't cherry picked games but the last game they've played as terror

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                                          GENGHIS KHAN

                                            Havoc Badger <3 Hald Traasi- I compare hereos overall in all game stages, best farming item for almost every melee carry is BATTLEFURY, coz if you want fast farming Wraith King than just build battlefury as cleave realy very speed up farming speed for every melee carry, that is why i build for almost every melee carry battlefury to massive speed my farm speed.

                                            matrice

                                              with no order
                                              tinker, meepo, am, alchemist, naga

                                              I would place tb 6, 7 or 8th fastest.

                                              Doom is only a good farmer when nothing happen, but if the game is closed, than he cann't farm as fast as people who can wood + 2 lane with no problem, cause his clearing potential is close to 0.

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                                              regulator

                                                "Problem with TB is that he is mostly ranged hero and ranged hero cant buy battlefury what very much speed up their farming, that why is Sven one of the fastest heroes in game due CLEAVE."

                                                lol

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                                                GENGHIS KHAN

                                                  Who the fuck are Matrice and Zenoth? If some two random noobs farm fast with TB its prove nothing man.

                                                  Metallicize

                                                    Yeah they are so noobs, i eat noobs like them for breakfast.

                                                    matrice

                                                      Regulator, did you saw how am"s blink, which is better than perma haste to farm, is < mom :p

                                                      CaptainDreads

                                                        Assuming uncontested farming conditions and about 20-30 mins (so you have at least 1 farming item) in I reckon it would be something like:

                                                        1) Alch
                                                        2) Meepo
                                                        3) AM
                                                        4) Luna
                                                        5) Gyro

                                                        People seriously underestimate Meepo's ability to farm. Pretty much the only hero, who if left uncontested could clear all 6 creep waves and both jungles every minute in the mid game.

                                                        edit: Unless there are mud golems, fuck those guys.

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                                                        GENGHIS KHAN

                                                          And btw. you can also buy dagger on sven and then sven will have blink mom and cleave and this sven will farm much baster than am with just blink and cleave.

                                                          Julien

                                                            Antimage with the battle fury build.
                                                            Doom is fast farmer indeed.
                                                            Luna Gyro and Tinker should be among this list because of their farming skills and their potential to clear stacks.

                                                            GENGHIS KHAN

                                                              CaptainDreads- This all 4 hereos what you mentioned can farm fast except gyro he cant farm fast coz he is ranged hero with one shit farm ability with big cd.

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                                                              Zenoth

                                                                TB fastest farmer

                                                                depends on what conditions

                                                                in a game without heroes I can break 1k gpm consistently on am, pl, tb, naga, alch, meepo

                                                                with heroes its a different story

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                                                                Quick maffs

                                                                  Sven faster than luna or gyro or tb ?

                                                                  lol

                                                                  Quick maffs

                                                                    I dont think TB farm faster than an Alch Zenoth

                                                                    salt enjoyer

                                                                      I am sorry but that comment is way to unclear for me to even begin to decipher but lets assume you're saying battlefury is a good farming item for a carry.

                                                                      1. Congratulations you spent 4350 gold that your supports protected for 11-15 minutes or more, to spend on an item that will get you......more farm. Unless you actually need the battlefury your wasting so much gold on an inferior item.

                                                                      ....very few heroes need or even are better with battlefury.

                                                                      kanye went to uni

                                                                        "...and in this case i think that spectre is fastest radiance farmer in game coz haunt."

                                                                        Okay guys I think he's just trolling, no one's that retarded....

                                                                        brb i'm gonna go farm with haunt illusions

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                                                                        GENGHIS KHAN

                                                                          Dorkly- MOM + GREAT CLEAVE DISSAGREE WITH YOU MAN !

                                                                          Noé

                                                                            @lolwut clearly u never played spectre if u never used haunt to farm

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                                                                            Zenoth

                                                                              http://dotabuff.com/players/53678361/heroes?metric=economy

                                                                              clearly you have no idea how to farm even with your best heroes, I don't even see how your opinion is valid when you have fucking under 500 gpm with even prophet

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                                                                              GENGHIS KHAN

                                                                                lolwut- Lol, you dont understand how i mean that, i mean that that you can farm every jungle, lane creeps with radiance and than just instantly haunt teleport into fight and you will farm on they suports coz they almost definalte will die from your radiance spectre, first learn the game than say that someone is troll you scrub.

                                                                                salt enjoyer

                                                                                  He goes Battlefury on Ursa XD

                                                                                  GENGHIS KHAN

                                                                                    Havoc Badger <3 Hald Traas- Yep, and that why i get so huge farm with him like a pro at the end and you are noob if you think battlefury suck on Ursa lol.

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                                                                                    Quick maffs

                                                                                      How can my tinker GPM be 456 wtf is this shit, i was 100 % sure that i farmed faster than that

                                                                                      sad

                                                                                      Quick maffs

                                                                                        Oh cmon zenoth fuck you how can you have 700 gpm with terrorblade

                                                                                        kanye went to uni

                                                                                          Look at this comment: "Alex- You mean naga radiance? I dont think so that naga can farm fast, coz if its true fast farmer than why pros playing her sometimes as support and ignore her flash farm ability, and in this case i think that spectre is fastest radiance farmer in game coz haunt."

                                                                                          Like wtf is this did you just start playing yesterday or something? Maybe I was a bit harsh but ... man....

                                                                                          GENGHIS KHAN

                                                                                            Zenoth- Ahaha, i think you need more pay dotabuff for even more improving your statistics noob cheater...

                                                                                            Quick maffs

                                                                                              Guys chill he is trolling

                                                                                              If you guys put a Kappa after every comment of this guy you will have a typical twitch chat comment

                                                                                              "i think you need more pay dotabuff for even more improving your statistics noob cheater..."

                                                                                              See ?

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                                                                                              kanye went to uni

                                                                                                Why would you post a list on a FORUM WHICH BY DEFINITION IS A DISCUSSION TO SHOW DIFFERENT POINTS OF VIEW if you don't accept different points of view?

                                                                                                Edit: No, I can't accept this. He has to be trolling :/

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                                                                                                Zahard

                                                                                                  farming with tb is ez lol. i dont even know how2play him
                                                                                                  http://dotabuff.com/matches/581254333
                                                                                                  http://dotabuff.com/matches/580882876
                                                                                                  http://dotabuff.com/matches/576458785
                                                                                                  pre nerf tho. never played him since then

                                                                                                  eXcel

                                                                                                    May I please ask you, what's your MMR?

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                                                                                                    GENGHIS KHAN

                                                                                                      lolwut- I dont trolling you idiot noob.

                                                                                                      Quick maffs

                                                                                                        Yeah but i was talking about average GPM

                                                                                                        Zenoth average is 700 and man that seems really high