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General DiscussionHavoc + Guiri race to 5k

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King of Low Prio

    yup I got the same retarded player in

    http://dotabuff.com/matches/778045190

    I spent all game trying to explain to this retard that he needs to doom sven and I can silence ember (no BKB)

    http://dotabuff.com/matches/778111602

    got the same retard again playing BH and he did not understand that how track works.....

    I tend to drop more MM if I binge que rather than doing a few at a time

    kakakotkoa

      i got banned for posting the n word so..

      King of Low Prio

        ^ you are so hardcore bro

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        salt enjoyer

          Smurf queues are odd and usually quite easy, having 60% or more win rate on a smurf is the easiest thing in the world to do as equally getting a decently high rated smurf is.

          eXcel

            Today the climb has reached demoralising lows,

            The invoker in this game
            http://dotabuff.com/matches/779420973

            Is also the tide in this
            http://dotabuff.com/matches/779012319

            I dodged a game in which I was queued with him too. If I encounter him again I will insta dodge, even if I don't play for an hour, I won't waste my time on this cunt any more.

            salt enjoyer

              Case and point why A) I have been picking Silencer B) I never play carry.

              I have come to the conclusions that the majority of 5K people play mids and carries but suck dick and supports.

              Game for reference, Veno had zero clue what to do and was 0-4 about 6 minutes in to a solo windrunner http://dotabuff.com/matches/779708872

              Quick maffs

                wait guiri are you back to 4,5 k?

                can i change my bet to havoc ?

                eXcel

                  Well, I am right now, but I'll rise again, I've just had a horribly unlucky day, if tomorrow I have luck on my side I'll be 4.7k again, maybe 4.8k (i'm actually 1 from 4.6 again, change if you want)

                  [Lk].Zano

                    Yish, my betting curse is working

                    eXcel

                      literally is lol, at the end of the day, my performances are on dotabuff to see, I may have played below par in a few but I have terrible luck and I'm constantly being put with crap players. Maybe if tomorrow I get a nice day I can go +150

                      ICE SKULL

                        5 deaths to feeding LMAO 4.5k players really care about +25 lol

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                        Quick maffs

                          So i guess you are the bloodseeker ?

                          Important question, how old are you wave ?

                          ICE SKULL

                            14

                            Ples Mercy

                              ^
                              he is bounty

                              ICE SKULL

                                ~ when i was 13 i received a bag of candy and playstation 4 !!!! <3 ~

                                BenaoLifedancer

                                  im 12 and i do what wave does too :)

                                  Quick maffs

                                    Oh no i know you are probably on your 20´s, what it makes it even more sad

                                    ICE SKULL

                                      xeriexQT has randomed Visage
                                      [ALLIES] 2pak_rusboi98: mid or -25
                                      [ALLIES] HerzeleiD: report
                                      [ALLIES] 2pak_rusboi98: fuck ur mother ur sister suck my dik
                                      [ALLIES] HerzeleiD: reort
                                      [ALLIES] HerzeleiD: p
                                      [ALLIES] 2pak_rusboi98: SIN SOBAKI
                                      [ALLIES] 2pak_rusboi98: IDITE NAHUI
                                      [ALLIES] HerzeleiD: i dont speak retardian
                                      [ALLIES] 2pak_rusboi98: EBAT PIZDEC GAMBURGER
                                      [ALLIES] HerzeleiD: english motherfucker
                                      [ALLIES] 2pak_rusboi98: RETARDIAN ?
                                      [ALLIES] HerzeleiD: ye retardian
                                      Murry has randomed Beastmaster
                                      [ALLIES] HerzeleiD: ur language
                                      [ALLIES] 2pak_rusboi98: MAMU HOSHOL

                                      eXcel

                                        Thus ends a terrible day of Dota, here being my final game.

                                        Timber with 27 wins.

                                        http://dotabuff.com/matches/779929352

                                        Feeds first blood and continues to die I think 0-7-0 in offlane before the 10 min mark.

                                        salt enjoyer

                                          Almost all the Zeus players I have come across in game have been TBD smurfs, guess noobs figured out Hero damage is a strong gauge on final MMR rating.

                                          Trodlabundin

                                            I had 4 horrible games today, then I got 2 free wins and 1 ugly game that we somehow won.

                                            Lost 19mmr in total, I'm satified.

                                            A NEW DAY TOMORROW BOYS,
                                            also thanks Guiri, for reminding me Timbersaw exist. Gotto grind some mmr with him tomorrow

                                            Low Expectations

                                              I came to the conclusion that climbing mmr till september is just a fools errand. Aroud 4k at least 15% accounts are smurfs. I bet 10 rares that noone will get to 5k before at least Sep.4
                                              Personally the shitty quality of games has led me to take a break from doto till Septmber aswell.

                                              ICE SKULL

                                                this is what awaits you at 4.8k-4.9k boys
                                                779963452

                                                tbd smurfs trying to take mid from you and delaying the match to 50+ minutes

                                                ICE SKULL

                                                  i was ta in that match, jesus chriztz

                                                  ICE SKULL

                                                    its so boring going to see if that penalty was a bug or not

                                                    Nemesis

                                                      don't worry when valve's compendium dies so will the TBD zeus/tinker smurfs

                                                      i guess i shouldn't be talking LOL

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                                                      ICE SKULL

                                                        lol pls get me that 5300

                                                        Nemesis

                                                          xd

                                                          man every time a retard picks potm and sits mid just to fire an arrow every 30-45 seconds at my general direction i really just want to kill the person sitting behind the monitor

                                                          Hopeless

                                                            Oh man 779963452

                                                            This new truesight thing is pretty cool.




                                                            eXcel

                                                              So this is my match making right now:

                                                              My team are bad, I play REALLY well and we have a close victory = +24 points
                                                              http://dotabuff.com/matches/780587069

                                                              My team are terrible, feed so hard I can't even get a mek up to try and take a team fight and we're wiped super hard and super quick = -25 points
                                                              http://dotabuff.com/matches/780653424

                                                              Overall = I work my ass hard in both games, play well in both (best on my team by a long shot) showing that I'm clearly above the level of what I'm matched with and end up one hour later with a total of minus one point. Thanks valve.

                                                              Low Expectations

                                                                ^ you have not had a game in which u said it was your fault you lost. Interesting.

                                                                eXcel

                                                                  Try and find one. They are few and far between. I'm not even trying to be a prick here, I accept I'm not fantastic, I'm not a pro level and I'm not 5.5k+ material, but I'm way above the shit I'm put with. There have been games where I could have done better but there is not a single game in my past maybe 50 solo games where I am to blame for the loss.

                                                                  Even the games where my score looks bad there is always worse on my team, and often the cause for my bad score.

                                                                  This game is my worst score in a while
                                                                  http://dotabuff.com/matches/779514944
                                                                  And I'm still not bad compared to others on team (yes tide did better than me, like I said, I'm not perfect I'm just above this shit)

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                                                                  Hex Sigma

                                                                    Somebody explain me why is 4k trench? It makes no sense. 2k is bad, 3k is average, so logicly 4k would be good. So why is it like that, tbh not even 2k is this toxic and bad.

                                                                    Quick maffs

                                                                      because pubs are pubs 1k 2k 3k 4k 5k 6k or 7k

                                                                      Metallicize

                                                                        @Raspharus, 4k is not as "trenchy" as people call it. There are players who will play bad at any mmr. Someone randomed a hero he can't play, so he plays bad, someone is forced to support when he can only play mid, someone is forced to play mid when his only hero above 50% winrate is crystal maiden. So shit will happen, and unless you are some kind of exceptionally talented player, or you are 1k above everyone, you are going to struggle raising mmr. But eventually you will do it as long as you are actually trying to get better, and look at your own mistakes.

                                                                        salt enjoyer

                                                                          Ok, well here's the thing about 4.4K and up.

                                                                          People smell the climb, and can see the goal (5K) so having almost got there, but not quite, they start look at people around them and just below them and judging others harshly cause they feel that they have already made it and "who are these scrubs holding me back".

                                                                          This leads to a culture of hissy fits, abandoning, and general bad sportsmanship. People say the key to winning these games is to play selfish as several others have done. Picking carry, mid etc., and generally ignoring the team till you got the stuff to win. This is actually what I have experienced to be the problem in most games. Generally when you and members of your team do the up-most to get the team snowballing in the right direction and the "greedy" one needs to farm and will ignore the needs of the team and not help which will lead to the other 4 dying and some point which in turn will mean the greedy one will have to farm more in his mind and on and on etc etc.

                                                                          For instance my climb has been iffy as well to some extent but a little bit better cause I make a conscious effort to roam, support, encourage team mates, and explain what is going on when people are getting frustrated. Not all games are rosy, and some even I lose my shit, but this is not due solely to shit team mates, this is also just the toxic nature of the bracket.

                                                                          TL;DR People in this bracket (4.5-4.8) are on edge due to being so close to 5K and being overly skeptical of their team mates from the start. Make 1 mistake and you might just have your team abandon or throw.

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                                                                          wraithseeker

                                                                            4k is the real trench full of toxic players who can't pick and ensure that u lose < 20 minutes especially those junglers. It's a complete joke and makes it realy difficult to win games

                                                                            salt enjoyer

                                                                              Well that is one of the primary reason I have stopped playing Axe unless I am going offlane, its become really rough to be efficient enough due to the unstable nature of the game.

                                                                              eXcel

                                                                                Well, I'm almost sub 4.5k, I've half given up. The match making gods absolutely hate me, http://dotabuff.com/matches/781104665

                                                                                Both our solo mid and solo offlane score 2-10

                                                                                My last death comes from fountain camping.

                                                                                I literally have run out of ideas.

                                                                                The graph is also kind of a lie, there was no point in that game where we had an advantage as a team, the entire exp lead came from me.

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                                                                                eXcel

                                                                                  This is what I have to fucking do to score a win around here.

                                                                                  http://dotabuff.com/matches/781204888

                                                                                  [Lk].Zano

                                                                                    Meanwhile, Benao is winning games like this http://dotabuff.com/matches/777893504

                                                                                    eXcel

                                                                                      I know. The doto gods have decided to test me during this race, but I've done it again. Imma jugger abuse to 4.8k or something

                                                                                      http://dotabuff.com/matches/781276134

                                                                                      Strongmind

                                                                                        Guiri game is hard I just started 1 game today http://dotabuff.com/matches/780834038 and guy left after 0-4 again abandon :DDD so I won 4v5 , Gabe not giving me 5v5 matches still so I m gonna stop play for a while. Anyway my pc laggs and its unplayeble yesterday and today need to get money and buy new pc in few weeks or months..cus this is pointless to play with such a laggs in game its pain in the eyes.

                                                                                        [Lk].Zano

                                                                                          My exams are about to finish and this thread is seriously making me reconsider grinding games and tryharding to get better when the next step in my MMR journey would be entering the 4k...

                                                                                          spirestoner

                                                                                            you really dont want to start grinding til after TI, the compendium boost helps smurfs reach ranked SOOOOO fast every single game has at least 1

                                                                                            BenaoLifedancer

                                                                                              I just got matched against vaikiss!!!!!!!!! and i picked drow mid watch watch xD

                                                                                              salt enjoyer

                                                                                                Meh I am feeling the burn here, the higher I go 4788 i got paired with 4.3 and 4.4k players.....oh and a "support" kunkka. Who claimed that kunkka support was better than a phoenix and lion support.

                                                                                                .....oh my lord.

                                                                                                eXcel

                                                                                                  Sam, I still watch your games with eternal envy, you have perhaps 1 or 2 retards per games, I perhaps have 1 or 2 good players. I'm convinced it's a phase of bad luck but I still really have it against me, every win is hard fought and every loss is an utter troll frest.

                                                                                                  http://dotabuff.com/matches/781357149
                                                                                                  Best lane support disruptor, not only did he feed he used his nuke on creeps, y'know, gotta secure that cs somehow even if the carry may need it!, oh and the offlane viper blew dick. Enigma was ok but far too passive until he got his shit together (same story with most junglers in this bracket)

                                                                                                  http://dotabuff.com/matches/781104665
                                                                                                  4 retards + me

                                                                                                  http://dotabuff.com/matches/780653424
                                                                                                  4 retards + me

                                                                                                  There are others, like this game http://dotabuff.com/matches/780886495 which need some more explaining, but my team couldn't fucking play to save their lives, Zeus was a TBD smurf who insta picked for mid, kinda sums it up.

                                                                                                  Now although this one doesn't look so bad http://dotabuff.com/matches/780958533 Void would have died maybe 5 times more and killed 5 less if it weren't for my healing, same with SF to a lesser extent. Void could also never chrono more than 1 person.

                                                                                                  Zahard

                                                                                                    rares=rip