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ALIF

    Who the hell taught 1k and 2k player build drow, by level up their skill 3 and ulti only. They not level up skill 1 and 2. That just retard. I stumble upon many player build this way in this low bracket.

    M u r d e r

      Miracle thought them.

      Pom Pom 🍕

        Russian teams used to do that (when they still existed). Though they usually put 1 point in each skill (1-1-4-3, max stats).

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        Snu

          http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2468208559

          It can work, in normal skill. :D

          Arena.Gosu

            very high skill, work perfectly :D

            http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2526101337

            BenaoLifedancer

              chinese noobs started with that like over a year ago, worst idea ever! Sad part is euros copied that shit- gg

              poly-

                http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2564307183

                Better than this drow going for frost arrows at lvl 1 and gust at lvl 2..... I was on shaker, skillbuild sucked as well.
                #JustNormalSkillThings

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                  rofl miracle played 1 game of it and now everyone does it

                  BlurryBob

                    Traxex's signature isn't her agility, it's her frost arrows. Following this logic (however shitty logic it may be), I always max out FA

                    quity

                      ^you only need one point in frost arrows and you use it to orb walk, and for the slow when you're going for the kill, even then you use it once.

                      Mr. Nice Guy

                        http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1397501793 it s an old build,but pretty cool

                        🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                          because noobs will copy anything.

                          also other noobs(non blue stars) talking about how bad it is, the build is good for a sitaution in which it's used.

                          a situation where you're not chasing people with your q, but only doing hte damage if someone else sets you up

                          or you're just hitting towers or just farming.

                          so if you're not intending to front line fight, then your q is useless

                          meaning this can be a viable build if played properly.

                          now don't expect noobs to know how to play it, they'll only copy the items/skills brainlessly and feed.

                          BenaoLifedancer

                            @Dos Catos No, you don't need just 1 point in frost arrow you scrub. Don't dare to post here when you know shit about the game.

                            Lets do Science

                              then why do you post here benao?

                              Androgynous

                                LUL

                                Seoulmate

                                  random post but i was looking at a past drow match of mine and look at the hero healing wtf

                                  http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1542558373

                                  Androgynous

                                    probably the PL vlads

                                    Dire Wolf

                                      cus they all build lifesteal (and skadi sometimes) and the frosty arrows don't stack

                                      lulz

                                      M u r d e r

                                        Why so few Drows build Eblades? It's like a Dagon5 with epic agility lul.

                                        🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                                          vile, it's because they're not stupid

                                          M u r d e r

                                            Pros do it though

                                            Much like Eblade on Slark (Essence Shift stacks -> Nuke)

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                                            🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                                              just because a pro does it, doesn't make it any good. AT ALL.

                                              it conflicts with the hero's playstyle. 4.7k gold item for a shitty 40 agility lmao

                                              anyways, i'm not gonna explain all of it to you, you're too unreasonable.

                                              but here's my itemization guide, so if you ever feel like not being an complete idiot on every post you make and learning something: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TGO4a_RaNZjDOFrt-Vyrjj37YBpIJ2tRflRoRzuTRfg/edit

                                              M u r d e r

                                                4.7k gold on shitty 40 agility and over 900 magic damage nuke/disable, more like it. People pay 7k just for the nuke lul.

                                                I understand that it's most certainly not ordinary item and probably not recommended, but you can't really say that it's so bad either.

                                                Defo better than 2nd or 3rd Butterfly, I guess.

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                                                Seoulmate

                                                  i think they look different for each of us, I don't see the HH on the skadi or satanic


                                                  and for me my drow game hero healing is super weird

                                                  🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                                                    i'm not gonna explain it to you, you're an idiot. read my guide if you want, if not then keep making a joke of yourself.

                                                    like i said, item conflicts with the playstyle.

                                                    BenaoLifedancer

                                                      Who the fuck is this Cookie shit?

                                                      M u r d e r

                                                        It only conflicts if you use it before attacking the target you want, and not if you use it on the enemy carry that's about to attack you or a wounded support that you want dead now. So yeah, that's not exactly a good argument in all the cases.

                                                        ^some 6k stuck up kid

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                                                        🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                                                          someone who's better than you. also he's tilted at explaining shit to vile thoughts every 5 minutes, more of correcting his shit.

                                                          edit: tough talk coming from a stuck up 2k kid

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                                                          BenaoLifedancer

                                                            Drow is one of the most versatile heroes. The best standard build is still mine

                                                            🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                                                              i didn't say anything about your build, also how is drow versatile?

                                                              versatile at being a right clicker who hits from the back?

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                                                              BenaoLifedancer

                                                                nono, i just included that. My point is almost anything can work on drow xD

                                                                versatile as in i used to go necro 3 drow and win, orchid dagger drow and win, mek drow and win, etc

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                                                                🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                                                                  fair enough, in specific situations specific items work.

                                                                  M u r d e r

                                                                    Might be tough talk, but rly not so stuck up. I respect anyone's opinion, even if they have lower mmr than me, so yeah.

                                                                    Like, I think that a 15 STR/INT, 900+ magic nuke and a 1000 gold might be considered better for Drow than 35% evasion, 25AD and 25DMG, but I'm not gonna flame someone just because he claims otherwise.

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                                                                    🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                                                                      i respect anyone's opinion, as long as it's not up right stupid.

                                                                      M u r d e r

                                                                        So I guess you should consider E-Blade as a possibly viable item then. At least because it's the most cost-effective magic nuke Drow can use and it also doubles up as the most slot-efficient agility item.

                                                                        You can almost instagib supports with one click if you're far ahead, from a large range.

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                                                                        BenaoLifedancer

                                                                          IT IS NOT BECAUSE IT IS COST EFFECTIVE THAT IT COULD BE GOOD IN A SITUATION!!!!

                                                                          It is because you might need to nuke people, dude like come on how fucking stupid are you ffs we get mad at stupid people like you do you get it?

                                                                          🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                                                                            possibly viable, but on a scale of 1-5 on viability i'd put it as a shitty 2. yes it's the most cost effective magical nuke on an agility hero(morphling) except it conflicts with drow's playstyle: a full out physical/right click damage dealer.

                                                                            and no the most slot/cost-efficient agiliy(and even strenght) item for drow is dragon lance

                                                                            M u r d e r

                                                                              Or you need to ghost people. I think forcing BKBs/Manta with it is good enough to consider the item as at least somewhat viable.

                                                                              Nope, 1 gold gives more agi if you buy Eblade and not Dragon Lance. Slightly, but more. It was nerfed, remember?
                                                                              But then I am wrong again. Diffusal Blade 2 is even better than Eblade.

                                                                              Yes, last game I built E-blade and D-Blade2 fast and it was one hell of a stomp.

                                                                              However, endgame Eblade would be best to fill a slot, I suppose.

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                                                                              🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                                                                                i'm not talking about pure mathematical agility cost efficency, in that case it's an iron branch because it gives 1 agility for 50 gold meanwhile etheral blade giving 1 agility for 117.5 gold and dragon lance 135.71 gold per agiity.

                                                                                i'm also taking into slot efficiency, which is why i said slot/cost.

                                                                                because it gives drow that much needed strength, and it gives the ability to upgrade to a Huricane pike. something that she actually need- positioning.

                                                                                because her ult can get disabled logically and she's shit squishy.

                                                                                no it wont, you're just an idiot who can't accept that he's wrong even once, even if you're wrong IN EVERY SINGLE POST, ALL THE TIME.

                                                                                even if we break your shit theories, you still talk that same crap like we didn't prove it wrong.

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                                                                                M u r d e r

                                                                                  Well, I had in mind the fact that you can't get more agi from 1 slot than with an E-Blade.

                                                                                  If I think I'm wrong, I just don't say it.

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                                                                                  🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                                                                                    since you won't listen to anyone else who disproves your theories, i want you to go do something for me.

                                                                                    i wan't you to go over to the international and open the stats of every single match that included a drow, i want you to count me the amount of times an ethereal blade was purchased

                                                                                    here i'll help you: http://www.dotabuff.com/esports/leagues/4664/matches?date=all&hero=drow-ranger

                                                                                    but i also want you to count the amount of hurricane pike/ dragon lances purchased.

                                                                                    and tell me the ratio of: etheral blade compared to hurricane pike(dragon lance)

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                                                                                    M u r d e r

                                                                                      I myself buy a Dragon Lance every single Drow game, it would be pointless to do what you say.

                                                                                      🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                                                                                        no, no: go count it. i want the ratio

                                                                                        M u r d e r

                                                                                          You just made me realise that drow's going to get nerfed. Eevry single match in page 1 had a drow picked, wtf.

                                                                                          🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                                                                                            the international 2016, FILTERED BY: DROW RANGER, ALL TIME

                                                                                            i think you might be dyslexic.

                                                                                            but on the other side, she defiantly will get nerfed

                                                                                            she's been picked in 62 out of 386 games

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                                                                                            M u r d e r

                                                                                              yeah lol im so ashamed of myself rn

                                                                                              Anyway I'll go right ahead and guess that the ratio is infinite.

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                                                                                              🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                                                                                                but that only talks about the item on that hero, and item efficiency overall.

                                                                                                what makes an item efficient on a hero isn't purely what it gives for the gold paid, but what it gives compared to other items.

                                                                                                and this whole argument could've been avoided if you just read my guide.

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                                                                                                M u r d e r

                                                                                                  While E-Blade is barely bought, it's winrate on Drow in general is still ~75%. Which makes me think that it really is not that bad of an item on her after all.

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                                                                                                  TheMaverick427

                                                                                                    Eblade would be decent if Drow is up against a Slark or Juggernaut. She can use it on herself during their ults because its not like she can attack them then anyway. It also gives the most agility in a single slot out of any items so ultra-late game if her team is mostly ranged heroes it might be worth it. But its strictly situational, not an item you build without a specific reason.

                                                                                                    🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                                                                                                      because, stats can be decieving. again you go back to your old argument.

                                                                                                      here's how: http://www.dotabuff.com/items

                                                                                                      sort by winrate, if your logic is right then if you rush to get an aegis every single game, you'll have 97%+ winrate and you'll become miracle overnight.

                                                                                                      but what is really happening is that the winning team will go roshan and get aegis, but not need to use it and just win the game without it. hence the inflated winrate

                                                                                                      i'm not saying it's completely useless, because there can be times where it's used. but efficency wise, it was bought 3 times in the ti on a drow, there's your info. there were only 3 games where it was viable out of 60.

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