Oh shit its legit!!!
They will continue buffing heroes until they reach pro scene and then nerf them to oblivion when they take the pro scene and nothing else is played except buffed heroes.
They never did and never will care for pubs.
This changes though , bloodseeker is untouched. It shows these changes were designed before the majors began.
hahaha even more clinkz buffs
what the hell
* Alchemist: Chemical Rage now applies a basic dispel on cast
can we call him broken now, or is it still too soon
Anything that requires dust or team coordination is out of hanf in 1k so it doesn't really matter ex dee
Gyro is dead now i think. That level 15 talent was utterly broken but it made the hero work. Now its just replaced with utter garbage.
Nightstalker might also be dead, though thats what i thought in the last batch of nerfs too.
Alch buff is quite significant, but manta is a semi-common item on the hero anyway so not sure how much it will matter.
Everyone's talking about clinkz but the hero is super one-dimensional and can only ever play one type of game. He is good but fine.
Huskar talent is actually insane, there is no way they did any playtesting with that shit.
Tiny got insignificant buffs that still dont address the main issues.
TB buff is nice but not sure its gonna make the hero meta again. Maybe if spectre or clinkz become more popular.
Warlock needed a nerf imo.
Slight nerf to Solar Crest is nice, you cant actually buy it on heroes like timbersaw and lifestealer early on and become unkillable. Mainly a support item now.
Spirit breaker might be good again with the constant nerfs to other position 4 heroes.
Sky needed some touching as well, more than leshrac at least.
am i missing something obvious? u usually pop ult before the fight so how does a dispel matter that much
idk why they keep buffing clinkz and ench, they are alrdy cancers. seems gaben wants to see lots of clinkz ban/pick it TI
husky,necro,shaman,bara good buffs
they killed gyro and maybe io
some good changes talents specially that shit+60gold/min and similar gold/min , good exp talent for pudge
It is good utility to have much like life break. Even though you generally use it at the start of a fight, this change allows you to be more creative as to when you wanna use it
That reads like a joke shitpost patch notes.
That’s a lot of unbalanced heroes added to pool.
I guess if everyone is broken no one is broken.
Apart from meepo.
As someone who abuses OP heroes such as visage. Clinkz has really got my attention now.
1. Huskar pure dmg piercing spears late game is holy shit buff.
2. No touch on TA, this is why TA winrate so low, over the past 2 years every other hero has gotten stat buffs, move speed buffs, base dmg buffs, all except TA leaving her as one of the slowest base move speed after talents, and lowest stats in the game.
^Eh, not really, by the time Huskar get 25, everyone and their mother will have halberds to respond to him, any reasonable Huskar player finishes game until 25minute, right about after second Rosh.
So I guess clinkz has become the cancer of pubs, huh? Wait till he will be picked in pro then nerfed to dust.
P.S.: The real problem with clinkz is .... HE IS SO FUCKING BORING!
Huskar having a lvl 25 talent is not that significant, the hero mainly just rolls down lanes at like 20-25 min with second rosh, it makes his late a bit better but he never went for it in the first place
Huskar level 25 talent can be countered by Halberd or Blademail because his 3rd skill provides no resistance against pure damage and Blademail also pierces BKB.
the real problem of clinkz is how people build him, nothing else. he indeed didn't diserved the last two buff
All hail to KOTL and Earthshaker!
And now they are adding back initial damage to echoslam. Awesome!
RIP Night Stalker. He went from one of my most played heroes to just being unplayable with these nerfs. Io receiving a 20% spirits nerf is huge! Idk how much I can justify Io picks anymore. Except with KOTL; it means you only need 2 levels of mana give to make io KOTL combo go off. That's pretty good.
Necro needed the buff, but this won't bring him back Mid I don't think.
Oracle will be played in pros again. The guaranteed purge is actually really huge. The damage was unreliable, but now with the undisjointable purge I bet we'll see him played again.
RIP Night Stalker. He went from one of my most played heroes to just being unplayable with these nerfs.
How is NS unplayable? Your silence is just not as spamable like before so you will have to max it instead of leaving it on lvl 1, you are pos 4 not a fucking core so your job is chasing down and seting up, not executing kills!
Its nobodys problem that you misunderstood heroes and you playing pos4 like 3 or God forbid 2!
Also heros name is fucking NIGHT STALKER, so during daytime you farm at nighttime you gank and its a situational pick when you are unable to ban Tinker, Ember or some other anoying hero but you are afraid that enemy will draft them, so you preventivly counter it by picking night stalker for position 4!
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7.17:
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* Eul's Scepter of Divinity: Bonus movement speed reduced from +40 to +30
* Moon Shard: Night vision increased from 300/150 (base/consumed) to 400/200
* Refresher: Recipe cost reduced from 1800 to 1700
* Talisman of Evasion: Evasion reduced from 20% to 15%
* Talisman of Evasion: Cost reduced from 1450 to 1400
* Solar Crest: Base evasion reduced from 20% to 15% (active application is still 20%)
* Abaddon: Level 10 Talent increased from +20% XP to +25%
* Abaddon: Level 15 Talent increased from +60 Mist Coil Heal/Damage to +75
* Abaddon: Level 15 Talent increased from +6 Armor to +8
* Alchemist: Chemical Rage now applies a basic dispel on cast
* Ancient Apparition: Level 10 Talent increased from +60 Gold/Min to +90
* Anti-Mage: Base damage increased by 2
* Bane: Base damage reduced by 2
* Bane: Brain Sap manacost increased from 70/100/130/160 to 90/115/140/165
* Beastmaster: Base armor reduced by 2
* Bristleback: Viscous Nasal Goo now has a -2 base armor reduction
* Clinkz: Base armor increased by 1
* Clinkz: Strafe dodge now works against non-player units
* Clinkz: Strafe attack speed increased from 80/140/200/260 to 110/160/210/260
* Clockwerk: Base damage reduced by 4
* Crystal Maiden: Crystal Nova cooldown reduced from 12/11/10/9 to 11/10/9/8
* Crystal Maiden: Level 15 Talent increased from +120 Gold/Min to +150
* Dark Willow: Bramble Maze cooldown reduced from 40/35/30/25 to 34/31/28/25
* Dark Willow: Level 10 Talent increased from +20 Damage to +30
* Death Pr ophet: Exorcism spirit spawn interval increased from 0.3 to 0.35
* Disruptor: Thunder Strike cooldown increased from 15/13/11/9 to 18/15/12/9
* Earthshaker: Echo Slam now has 100 Initial Damage
* Enchantress: Nature's Attendants cooldown reduced from 45 to 35
* Enchantress: Enchant slow rescaled from 3/4/5/6 to 3.75/4.5/5.25/6
* Enigma: Demonic Conversion manacost reduced from 170 to 140/150/160/170
* Enigma: Demonic Conversion Eidolon HP regen increased from 0.25 to 4
* Gyrocopter: Level 15 Talent changed from +3 Flak Cannon Attacks to +0.5s Homing Missile Stun Duration
* Gyrocopter: Level 20 Talent reduced from +45 Movement Speed to +40
* Huskar: Level 25 Talent changed from 0 Inner Vitality Cooldown to Burning Spears Pure and Pierces Immunity
* Huskar: Level 25 Talent increased from +125 Attack Range to +150
* Invoker: Catacylsm max spread distance reduced from 220 to 200
* Io: Spirits damage reduced from 25/50/75/100 to 20/40/60/80
* Io: Tether movement speed reduced from 7/10/13/16 to 5/8/11/14%
* Io: Level 10 Talent reduced from +60 Damage to +45
* Io: Level 20 Talent reduced from +20 Health Regen to +15
* Juggernaut: Base armor increased by 1
* Keeper of the Light: Chakra Magic no longer has a 25/35/45/55 manacost
* Leshrac: Lightning Storm cast range reduced from 650/700/750/800 to 650
* Lich: Frost Blast attack slow increased from -20 to -30
* Lich: Frost Blast cooldown reduced from 8 to 7
* Lich: Level 10 Talent increased from +175 Health to +200
* Lycan: Feral Impulse damage reduced from 15/26/37/48% to 12/24/36/48%
* Magnus: Base strength increased by 1
* Magnus: Skewer slow increased from 2.5/2.75/3/3.25 to 3.25
* Magnus: Shockwave damage increased from 75/150/225/300 to 90/160/230/300
* Meepo: Base armor increased by 2
* Mirana: Level 25 Talent reduced from -80s Moonlight Shadow Cooldown to -75s
* Naga Siren: Song of the Siren manacost increased from 100/150/200 to 150/175/200
* Necrophos: Level 15 Talent increased from +16% Ghost Shroud Slow to +20%
* Necrophos: Level 25 Talent increased from -1.5s Death Pulse Cooldown to -2.5s
* Necrophos: Level 25 Talent increased from +0.6 heartstopper Aura to +0.8
* Night Stalker: Crippling Fear cooldown increased from 12 to 24/20/16/12
* Night Stalker: Void cooldown increased from 8 to 11/10/9/8
* Oracle: Fortune's End is no longer disjointable
* Oracle: Level 15 Talent increased from +90 Gold/Min to +120
* Pangolier: Fixed Rolling Thunder having no effect on units like Primal Split Brewlings and Ancients neutrals (still doesn't affect roshan)
* Phantom Assassin: Stifling Dagger slow rescaled from 1/2/3/4 seconds to 1.75/2.5/3.25/4
* Phantom Assassin: Level 20 Talent improved from Double Strike Stifling Dagger to Triple Strike Stifling Dagger
* Phoenix: Supernova stun duration from 1.5/2/2.5 to 2/2.5/3.0
* Puck: Waning Rift silence duration increased from 0.75/1.5/2.25/3 to 1.5/2/2.5/3
* Pudge: Level 10 Talent changed from +5 Armor to +30% XP
* Pudge: Level 15 Talent changed from +75 Damage to +12% Rot Slow
* Riki: Base armor increased by 1
* Riki: Base damage increased by 4
* Sand King: Base damage reduced by 3
* Sand King: Caustic Finale slow reduced from 21/24/27/30% to 15/20/25/30%
* Shadow Shaman: Base intelligence increased by 2
* Shadow Shaman: Hex manacost reduced from 110/140/170/200 to 70/110/150/190
* Shadow Shaman: Level 15 Talent increased from -4s Hex Cooldown to -5s
* Shadow Shaman: Level 25 Talent reduced from +60 Wards Attack Damage to +50
* Silencer: Arcane Curse penalty duration increased from 4 to 5 seconds
* Sniper: Assassinate cast range increased from 2000/2500/3000 to 3000
* Sniper: Level 10 Talent changed from +15% Cooldown Reduction to +25%
* Spectre: Level 15 Talent increased from -8s Spectral Dagger Cooldown to -10s
* Spirit Breaker: Greater Bash disable duration increased from 1/1.2/1.4/1.6 to 1.2/1.4/1.6/1.8
* Spirit Breaker: Nether Strike damage reduced from 150/250/350 to 150/200/250
* Spirit Breaker: Level 10 Talent increased from +400 Night Vision to +600
* Sven: Storm Hammer Manacost reduced from 140 to 110/120/130/140
* Terrorblade: Agility gain increased from 3.2 to 3.7
* Tiny: Base movement speed increased from 280 to 285
* Tiny: Tree Throw splash damage increased from 130% to 150%
* Tiny: Grow Status Resistance increased from 20/30/40% to 30/40/50%
* Ursa: Overpower duration increased from 15 to 20
* Ursa: Level 20 Talent changed from +1s Enrage Duration to +1.5s
* Winter Wyvern: Base Intelligence increased by 2
* Wraith King: Mortal Strike skeletons now have 30% Magic Resistance
* Wraith King: Level 15 Talent increased from +25 Skeletons Attack Damage to +35
* Zeus: Lightning Bolt manacost increased from 75/95/115/135 to 90/105/120/135