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    7.18
    Items

    Aeon Disk: Cooldown increased from 90 to 115
    Echo Sabre: Strength bonus increased from 10 to 12
    Echo Sabre: Damage bonus reduced from 15 to 12
    Echo Sabre: Slow duration increased from 0.7 to 0.8
    Hand of Midas: Cooldown reduced from 95 to 90
    Orb of Venom: Damage per second reduced from 5 to 3 on ranged heroes
    Maelstrom: Chain Lightning damage reduced from 170 to 160

    Heroes

    Abaddon

    Abaddon: Base movement speed increased from 305 to 310

    Alchemist

    Alchemist: Greevil's Greed Gold Bonus Cap increased from 16/20/24/28 to 20/24/28/32
    Alchemist: Greevil's Greed Stack Duration increased from 30 to 40

    Ancient Apparition

    Ancient Apparition: Ice Blast duration increased from 8/9/10 to 9/10/11

    Bane

    Bane: Fiend's Grip cooldown increased from 100 to 120/110/100

    Beastmaster

    Beastmaster: Wild Axes manacost increased from 80 to 80/85/90/95
    Beastmaster: Primal Roar cooldown increased from 80/75/70 to 90/80/70
    Beastmaster: Level 10 Talent reduced from +25 Movement Speed to +20
    Beastmaster: Level 15 Talent reduced from +7 Armor to +6
    Beastmaster: Level 20 Talent reduced from +100 Wild Axes Damage to +80

    Bloodseeker

    Bloodseeker: Level 10 Talent reduced from +8 Armor to +6
    Bloodseeker: Level 15 Talent reduced from +300 Health to +275

    Centaur Warrunner

    Centaur Warrunner: Base strength increased by 2

    Chen

    Chen: Holy Persuasion cast range reduced from 900 to 600
    Chen: Holy Persuasion send back delay rescaled from 6/5/4/3 to 6
    Chen: Holy Persuasion cooldown increased from 10 to 32/24/18/10

    Clinkz

    Clinkz: Strafe cooldown reduced from 45/35/25/15 to 30/25/20/15
    Clinkz: Strafe manacost reduced from 90 to 75/80/85/90

    Clockwerk

    Clockwerk: Power Cogs burn/damage reduced from 80/120/160/200 to 50/100/150/200

    Crystal Maiden

    Crystal Maiden: Crystal Nova damage increased from 100/150/200/250 to 130/170/210/260
    Crystal Maiden: Arcane Aura self mana regen increased from 1.6/2.4/3.2/4 to 1.8/2.6/3.4/4.2

    Dark Willow

    Dark Willow: Bramble Maze total damage increased from 100/150/200/250 to 140/180/220/260
    Dark Willow: Cursed Crown manacost reduced from 100/120/140/160 to 80/100/120/140

    Dazzle

    Dazzle: Base damage spread reduced from 41-59 to 47-53
    Dazzle: Poison Touch damage rescaled from 10/24/38/52 to 16/28/40/52

    Death Prophet

    Death Prophet: Base armor reduced by 1

    Doom

    Doom: Base movement speed reduced from 285 to 280

    Dragon Knight

    Dragon Knight: Level 15 Talent reduced from +35 Damage to +30

    Earthshaker

    Earthshaker: Base HP regen increased from 2 to 2.5
    Earthshaker: Base movement speed increased from 305 to 310
    Earthshaker: Enchant Totem Scepter cast range increased from 900 to 1100
    Earthshaker: Echo Slam Echo damage increased from 60/85/110 to 70/90/110
    Earthshaker: Echo Slam waves are no longer disjointable

    Earth Spirit

    Earth Spirit: Strength gain increased from 3.2 to 3.5

    Ember Spirit

    Ember Spirit: Fire Remnant charge restore time increased from 35 to 38

    Enchantress

    Enchantress: Attack range increased from 550 to 575
    Enchantress: Untouchable attack slow increased from -20/60/100/140 to -20/70/120/170
    Enchantress: Impetus damage increased from 14/18/22% to 16/20/24%

    Enigma

    Enigma: Midnight Pulse damage increased from 3/3.75/4.5/5.25% to 3.75/4.25/4.75/5.25%
    Enigma: Midnight Pulse duration rescaled from 11 to 9/10/11/12
    Enigma: Midnight Pulse cooldown rescaled from 35 to 50/45/40/35
    Enigma: Midnight Pulse manacost rescaled from 95/110/125/140 to 75/95/115/135
    Enigma: Level 15 Talent increased from +120 Gold/Min to +150
    Enigma: Level 20 Talent increased from +400 Health to +500 Health
    Enigma: Level 25 Talent increased from +4 Malefice Instance to +5

    Invoker

    Invoker: Level 10 Talent increased from +0.5s Tornado Lift Time to +1.25s
    Invoker: Level 15 Talent changed from +2.5s Cold Snap Duration to -12s Cold Snap Cooldown

    Io

    Io: Relocate now has channel time instead of a cast delay

    Legion Commander

    Legion Commander: Duel bonus damage increased from 10/14/18 to 10/18/26

    Leshrac

    Leshrac: Split Earth cast range reduced from 750 to 650

    Lich

    Lich: Sacrifice 25 manacost removed
    Lich: Ice Armor increased from 3/5/7/9 to 4/6/8/10
    Lich: Chain Frost cast point reduced from 0.4 to 0.3

    Lycan

    Lycan: Base armor reduced by 2
    Lycan: Base damage reduced by 3

    Meepo

    Meepo: Base armor increased by 2

    Mirana

    Mirana: Level 10 Talent reduced from +20 Damage to +15
    Mirana: Level 25 Talent reduced from -75s Moonlight Shadow Cooldown to -70s

    Morphling

    Morphling: Waveform cooldown increased from 11 to 14/13/12/11

    Naga Siren

    Naga Siren: Rip Tide damage reduced from 120/160/200/240 to 80/130/180/230
    Naga Siren: Ensnare cooldown increased from 12 to 14

    Nature's Prophet

    Nature's Prophet: Agility gain increased from 1.9 to 2.4

    Necrophos

    Necrophos: Death Pulse damage increased from 80/120/160/200 to 100/140/180/220
    Necrophos: Death Pulse unit kill regen duration increased from 6 to 7

    Night Stalker

    Night Stalker: Void now deals half damage during day
    Night Stalker: Base movement speed reduced from 290 to 285

    Nyx Assassin

    Nyx Assassin: Vendetta manacost decreased from 160/210/260 to 140/200/260

    Oracle

    Oracle: Intelligence growth increased from 3.2 to 3.5

    Phantom Lancer

    Phantom Lancer: Base strength reduced by 3

    Pudge

    Pudge: Meat Hook cast range increased from 1000/1100/1200/1300 to 1300
    Pudge: Flesh Heap magic resistance increased from 6/8/10/12% to 8/10/12/14%

    Riki

    Riki: Base damage increased by 3
    Riki: Blink Strike damage rescaled from 55/70/85/100 to 100
    Riki: Blink Strike cast range rescaled from 800 to 500/600/700/800
    Riki: Smoke Screen AoE increased from 250/275/300/325 to 325
    Riki: Smoke Screen cooldown increased from 11 to 17/15/13/11

    Sand King

    Sand King: Burrowstrike cooldown increased from 11 to 14/13/12/11

    Shadow Shaman

    Shadow Shaman: Mass Serpent Ward damage increased from 40/70/100 to 50/75/100

    Skywrath Mage

    Skywrath Mage: Arcane Bolt manacost increased from 70 to 90

    Slark

    Slark: Level 10 Talent reduced from +10 Agility to +8

    Sniper

    Sniper: Headshot physical damage no longer ignores Spell Immmune units
    Sniper: Headshot damage increased from 15/40/65/90 to 20/50/80/110

    Sven

    Sven: Great Cleave damage increased from 30/42/54/66 to 40/50/60/70

    Templar Assassin

    Templar Assassin: Psionic Traps bounty increased from 1 to 25

    Terrorblade

    Terrorblade: Agility gain increased from 3.7 to 4.2

    Tidehunter

    Tidehunter: Gush armor reduction increased from 3/4/5/6 to 4/5/6/7
    Tidehunter: Ravage duration increased from 2/2.4/2.8 to 2.4/2.6/2.8
    Tidehunter: Level 20 Talent increased from -4 Gush Armor to -5
    Tidehunter: Level 20 Talent increased from +24 Kraken Shell Damage Block to +30

    Timbersaw

    Timbersaw: Whirling Death stat loss percentage increased from 13% to 15%

    Tiny

    Tiny: Strength growth increased from 3.3 to 3.6
    Tiny: Tree Grab unit attack damage bonus increased from 10/20/30/40% to 25/30/35/40%
    Tiny: Tree Grab building attack damage rescaled from 90/120/150/180% to 80/120/160/200%
    Tiny: Toss damage increased from 75/150/225/300 to 90/160/230/300

    Ursa

    Ursa: Overpower attack count increased from 3/4/5/6 to 4/5/6/7
    Ursa: Level 20 Talent increased from +12 Fury Swipes Damage to +16

    Vengeful Spirit

    Vengeful Spirit: Wave of Terror damage rescaled from 45/70/95/120 to 60/80/100/120
    Vengeful Spirit: Magic Missile stun duration rescaled from 1.2/1.4/1.6/1.8 to 1.5/1.6/1.7/1.8

    Warlock

    Warlock: Shadow Word manacost increased from 90/110/130/150 to 120/130/140/150
    Warlock: Shadow Word cast range reduced from 525/600/675/750 to 450/550/650/750 

    Weaver

    Weaver: Agility gain increased from 2.8 to 3.1
    Weaver: Shukuchi damage increased from 80/110/140/170 to 100/125/150/175

    Windranger

    Windranger: Intelligence reduced by 2
    Windranger: Powershot reduced from 180/270/360/450 to 150/250/350/450

    Witch Doctor

    Witch Doctor: Voodoo Restoration activation cost increased from 20/30/40/50 to 35/40/45/50

    Wraith King

    Wraith King: Mortal Strike skeletons magic resistance increased from 30% to 50%
    Wraith King: Vampiric Aura increased from 15/20/25/30% to 18/22/26/30%

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    SEA ranked #1 Feeder KEK

      Wolf needs no armour and nerfed lycan to literally no armour. Gg wp icefog

      AMIGO

        Why cant they stop buffing clinkz

        AMIGO

          Riki can finally deal damage early

          CMNT

            Buffing Earthshaker oh yeah.
            Centaur +2 base STR is huge early game.
            Cancer Riki! TB!

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            Asmodeus

              Tb agility gain 4.2. Gg icefrog ez auto win

              bibotot1995

                Worst patch for pubs ever. Why do they keep buffing these cancerous heroes with already good winrate like Clinkz and Centaur? Pros don't pick them because pros don't like them in their strategies, NOT because they are weak in any way.

                Feachairu

                  Clinkz

                  Clinkz: Strafe cooldown reduced from 45/35/25/15 to 30/25/20/15
                  Clinkz: Strafe manacost reduced from 90 to 75/80/85/90

                  we lost

                  i'm surprised that naga song doesnt have like 3.5 second duration to roshan (so will be invul for half of duration and less time to steal roshan)

                  Filthy

                    I think I will be banning clinks every game now .

                    Xignum

                      I thought nothing could be tankier than previous patch tb,wonder how much armor he'll have now

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                        oof wisp

                        Potato Marshal

                          Thx 4 lich buffs icefrog, I luv u

                          masterps

                            33 armor lvl 25 TB, ggwp...

                            Murranji

                              I think it’ll be more than an agi buff that TB needs to be good.

                              He’s had so many nerfs recently, his laning was destroyed since he has no high regen any more, his HP pool is smaller than ever since strength only gives him 18 HP per level, reflection doesn’t slow attack speed, sunder has a smaller cast range than his attack range (serious wtf would he reintroduce this shiftiness again) plus it leaves the enemy on higher HP.

                              Let’s not forget his ultimate has a two and a half minute cooldown for 50 seconds of fighting duration, oh and it doesn’t last through death so if you pop it before aegis or buying back then the hero and fight are done for.

                              Like try laning this hero against Axe+Skywrath lmao.

                              Needs a strength gain buff and metamorphosis buff like longer duration or undo the removal on death (seriously this was the single best bit of when it was changed to an aura that affected his illusions in range and then he removed it lfmao).

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                              Potato Marshal

                                TB just can't deal with magic harassment in this dual offlane meta.

                                Cheap Laugh Guy

                                  Earthshaker TI again

                                  Luxon

                                    Just rush SnY and Heart on TB it's super legit now.

                                    Luxon

                                      Also 8 base armor Meepo we cool?

                                      Peekaboo

                                        Willowbuffs, Thankz Gaben, now i have 140 damage nuke that can hit multiple people, potentially hit ancient players twice and stun for 1 second at lvl 1

                                        Feachairu

                                          oh no,not the meepo

                                          Pale Mannie

                                            not even nerfing buybacks or spectre... garbage patch :blink:

                                            Oldman

                                              Why would they kill Chen like that? 6 sec send back? How are u supposed to save anyone now?

                                              Jack__Attack

                                                Roflcopter clinkz buffs

                                                PRAISE THE SUN!

                                                  Sad chen
                                                  Literally unplayable now

                                                  Used to be situational

                                                  Couldn't they just give him the -2 intelligence treatment

                                                  Luxon

                                                    Stalker so fucking useless during the day holy shit.

                                                    Potato PC

                                                      Relocate channel time? Time to play other game.

                                                      Väinämöinen

                                                        Buyback nerfs:

                                                        OH, 2 enemy heros bought back, maybe retreat!

                                                        buybucks successfully nerfed

                                                        Jacked

                                                          Yea they killed Chen. Why would you buff clinks and Riki fucking hell

                                                          Rocket

                                                            Meepo and clinkz ffs

                                                            ♏mikeeCS ツ

                                                              omg they killed chen and io

                                                              ETd

                                                                Night Stalker is a creep during the day
                                                                Btw, can we talk about the change to Io? What it means? Does it completely kill the concept of last second tether-relocate saves, since it’s now a channel?

                                                                Totentanz to The King: M ...

                                                                  okay surely night stalker is dead this time.

                                                                  r2d2

                                                                    io no relo saves anymore. still good as fuck tho

                                                                    wk rad (or mael) hyper pusher confirmed

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                                                                    TokyoTokyo

                                                                      @HanYolo they buff my clinkz 😂😂😂 but sadly nerfed my lycan. feelsbad but feelsgood 😂😂😂

                                                                      Oldman

                                                                        I wonder how IO nerf it will exactly work. You will be able to cancel relocate with any disable only at initial casting time or in that second 10 second period after relocate or both ?

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                                                                        Shazam

                                                                          nice buff on CM and VS.
                                                                          better be full time support now.

                                                                          Luxon

                                                                            The only difference is that you won't be able to move/act during the delay or you will cancel it. It was already canceled by any stun before so that doesn't change. But now it will easily break tether if your ally goes further than 900 units and you wont be able to follow or you will cancel relocate. Also if you decide to break tether during the delay it will cancel the relocation.

                                                                            Feels like such an asspull nerf TBH doesn't make sloghtest sense.

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                                                                            Totentanz to The King: M ...

                                                                              tbh, the time it takes to teleport someone is the same. there is simply more opportunity for counterplay now. it was very cheap to save someone from certain death every time. thats why chen also got a similar nerf to sendback.

                                                                              Dog

                                                                                Clinkz should be so fucking good at mid now, pros should start picking him in their games so icefrog nerfs him back to hell again

                                                                                зачем я начал поиск

                                                                                  Fuck Bone Fletcher.
                                                                                  Idc about everything else.
                                                                                  They just keep buffing the same retarded hero 3-4 patches in a row.

                                                                                  Wisp God !

                                                                                    io can't even using heal thingy when relocating... what a nerf

                                                                                    Jacked

                                                                                      I'm the only one worried about Riki in my games? Rip pubs.

                                                                                      Time to spam ursa

                                                                                      unbreakable spirit

                                                                                        Pudge oh yeah <3

                                                                                        Nads

                                                                                          Phantom Lancer dead?

                                                                                          ir5

                                                                                            io got nerf hammered hard

                                                                                            Bosnian Blade

                                                                                              best patch eva , no more stupid io .

                                                                                              click click

                                                                                                7.20 Io removed in game

                                                                                                Lex

                                                                                                  Have anyone mentioned pudge;s hook lvl 4 distance on llvl 1 ?

                                                                                                  MMortal

                                                                                                    That IO change just stopped so many clutch plays...

                                                                                                    bearcat0611

                                                                                                      im just mad no viper buffs. In a meta of strong lanes and 1v1 mid this hero's nowhere to be seen and he still doesnt get touched

                                                                                                      A

                                                                                                        Riki is nerfed wtf smoke 17s cd blink nerfed distance, basically enemy uses dust and GG